The New Millionaire’s Playbook with Gordy Bal

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Howdy and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from And this episode, as I discussed within the 700th episode, is deviating from simply bodily well being and wellness, so that may be a element right here and delving somewhat bit into the monetary facet of wellness as effectively. This episode is all about how we’re all buyers, and The New Millionaire’s Playbook. And I’m right here with my pal Gordy Bal, who’s a really heart-centered entrepreneur. He’s an investor and a visionary chief on this area. And he’s the creator of the brand new ebook, The New Millionaire’s Playbook, which is, I beloved this ebook, and I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. He’s the founder as effectively of the Acutely aware Thought Revolution, which consists of a enterprise capital fund and a world-class advertising and marketing company, which invests in entrepreneurs and organizations dedicated to bettering humanity. And thru these organizations, he spearheaded the transformation of early startups into billion-dollar powerhouses. And we go deep on this episode about plenty of the inside and thought-based points of investing in entrepreneurship and monetary success. So, I do know it is a little little bit of a brand new matter, however he provides plenty of nice methods on this episode and positively additionally in his ebook. So, let’s be a part of Gordy. Gordy, it’s such an honor to have you ever right here. Thanks for becoming a member of us.

Gordy: Completely my pleasure.

Katie: Properly, I’m very excited to leap in and chat with you as we speak. I opened the door not too long ago to clarify that I used to be gonna be speaking about matters past simply bodily well being as a result of I do suppose our psychological well being, our non secular well being, our monetary well being are all very helpful points of well being and wellness. And I’m so excited to get to do this with you as we speak, particularly. For individuals who aren’t acquainted, I’m gonna, after all, hyperlink to your new ebook, which I beloved, within the present notes at However I do know that there was fairly the non-public journey right here as effectively. So, for background, I might love in case you may share somewhat little bit of your private journey and what led to the creation of this ebook.

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I assume I’ll begin, you realize as, as a toddler of immigrant mother and father who moved from India to Canada with $20. They had been first technology, and so they labored their asses off to essentially create a life that they thought could be optimum for us. However rising up in that family, there was fairly a little bit of stress and battle and strife. And as a toddler, the which means I made out of that was that, oh, it should be as a result of we don’t have some huge cash. So, I instantly took on this position of, like, effectively, I’m going to make as a lot cash as humanly potential and clear up not solely the issues at house however clear up all the issues on the earth. And so, I acquired actually good at entrepreneurial expertise. I developed them fairly early on. And being a toddler of the web, I realized methods to earn a living on-line. And by the point I used to be in highschool, I used to be doing internet online affiliate marketing and producing tens of hundreds of {dollars} a month. And so, my checking account was rising. And nothing was actually bettering or altering as I assumed it might. And so, you realize, issues, issues had been, had been sort of like, you realize, exhausting. And, and I used to be like, effectively, I assumed if I made some huge cash, issues would get higher, however I nonetheless didn’t have any solutions. After which, so I’m like, okay, effectively, I’ll nonetheless go to school.

So, I went and acquired a four-year diploma in three years trigger I’ve at all times been like this hacker sort of like, how do I sort of, you realize, do issues sooner, cheaper, smarter, simpler, you realize, how entrepreneurs do. So, I acquired my four-year diploma in three years whereas launching extra companies on-line, and I ended up constructing this, you realize, and you realize, on Wall Wtreet, they’ve like high-frequency buying and selling for shares. I did that however for internet marketing. So, I constructed like this site visitors platform that was shopping for and promoting adverts, and it was making like an insane sum of money. However I wakened at some point in deep existential dread. I felt like I’ve extra money than I do know what to do with. , my household life is there’s nonetheless there’s nonetheless like, you realize, strife and battle and stress. It’s not all rainbows and unicorns. And on the time, this historic mystic poet by the title of Biggie Smalls, he had this track Mo Cash, Mo Issues. And I felt like I used to be dwelling that as a result of I used to be spiritually bankrupt, although I had a giant checking account.

And in order that’s once I began actually sort of asking deeper questions of, like, wait, like, what is that this sport I’m taking part in? How does the world truly work? Why is it that there’s some individuals who have a lot cash and are capable of purchase and do something they need, and simply down the identical avenue, there’s folks that may’t even purchase meals and don’t even have sneakers to put on? And the way does the federal government work? How does the healthcare system work? How does training system work? And so, I began sort of deconstructing plenty of these establishments of energy solely to understand and are available to this conclusion that the sport is rigged. Like we’re all taking part in this sport the place a choose few profit at the price of everyone else and the planet. And in order that’s sort of like, I’d say, the origin story of, you realize, what acquired me to begin asking greater questions and understanding how the world works.

However what I’ll say to cap that story off is that solely led to extra questions. As a result of once I noticed that the sport was rigged, as like, effectively, what’s the purpose of amassing a lot cash and energy. What’s the true sport being performed? And that’s once I actually dove deep into extra of the existential questions of, like, who am I? What’s my goal? What’s the nature of actuality? How does actuality truly get rendered? And what’s human consciousness? And in order that has been my final, I’d say, nearly 15-year journey actually diving deep into myself. So yeah, that’s the origin story.

Katie: I like it. And I might like to delve into a few of the belongings you write about within the ebook as a result of I do suppose this is applicable to everybody. And I feel proper now we’re seeing so many mothers getting into the enterprise world, whether or not it’s by means of proudly owning their very own companies, by means of investing, by means of micro companies. There’s so many choices, such as you mentioned, with the daybreak of the web, really the whole lot is at our fingertips. That doesn’t make it any simpler to leap in in case you’ve by no means achieved it earlier than. However I really like that you just introduced within the ethos of kind of your non secular element as a result of I feel that may be a large lacking piece that’s important after we’re speaking about truly acutely aware change, which I do know is a giant factor for you and for me as effectively. And my mission right here with Wellness Mama has at all times been to like and serve mothers and assist folks ask higher questions. And I really consider that with some framework and logistical assist in place, after we assist and serve folks, the financial half nearly effortlessly works itself out if we’ve that piece dialed in. So, I really like that you’ve that woven by means of all of the message of your complete ebook.

However I might love to begin delving into a few of the pillars that you just speak about within the ebook as a result of I really feel like it is a considerably new matter, probably for lots of the folks listening. And also you give a lot absolute superb knowledge within the ebook. So, are you able to possibly stroll us by means of the excessive stage of a few of the pillars that you just deliver up within the ebook?

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, the very first thing, so chat, so the important thing, the primary, so I speak about seven keys in direction of freedom, goal, and abundance. And the primary secret is round unplugging from the matrix. So, I put forth this notion of the matrix in, in, in a brand new definition the place I, I, I confer with it as a simulated actuality that’s projected from an influence system that’s globally entrenched and operates with unconscious ideas. And one of many methods wherein that’s proliferated is thru social media and social media algorithms. And so, I additionally in, in that key, I speak about understanding this idea that Steve Jobs coined, which is the fact distortion subject. So, consider the fact distortion subject because the film display wherein your life and your actuality will get performed.

Now, for many of us, that what’s being projected on that film display is from exterior inputs, whether or not that’s conditioning from our mother and father, whether or not it’s from the varsity system, whether or not it’s from mainstream media. And so, when that’s occurring, the film that’s being projected on that actuality distortion subject referred to as our life or a actuality is externally pushed. And so, the massive change is to understand that we are able to truly interface with the fact distortion subject and create our personal actuality. And the best way wherein to do that is thru our ideas as a result of I speak about how our ideas are essentially the most highly effective foreign money we’ve to speculate.

A research out of Stanford confirmed that we’ve between 40 and 60,000 ideas per day. And most of these ideas we’re unconscious of. And so these, and so after we are capable of grow to be acutely aware of the ideas that we’re having, we’re capable of then depict and create the fact we would like as a result of ideas grow to be actuality. However after we’re not acutely aware of it, we’re unconsciously kind of taking part in out this actuality that’s externally curated for us. In order that’s sort of the primary idea that I, and the primary key, I dive into.

After which, as soon as we unplug from the matrix, then I speak about the way it’s completely important, particularly as we speak and now, to find our true goal. Why are we truly right here? And, and so I walked by means of a framework, a five-step framework on methods to truly get clear in your life goal. And a part of that additionally, like a few of this sounds esoteric, however I stroll by means of pragmatic and sensible steps to get there. And a part of it’s to really begin connecting along with your soul. And most of us have been so disconnected from our soul. So, once I’m speaking to, you realize, whether or not it’s entrepreneurs or even when it’s mothers and, and the mother neighborhood is so large for me too. My, my spouse, who, you realize, you’ve gotten to satisfy, Sukhi, we’ve three youngsters, and I’ve seen simply how a lot she has devoted her life to the elevating of kids. And now I’m watching her transfer into again into, like, kind of exterior of mother mode, however into creator world. And so, serving to assist her and maintain area for her to find her goal. It’s been so profound and magical to see that. And so, I feel, particularly with, you realize, the proliferation of synthetic intelligence and, and I imply, you’ve seen the facility of, of AI and even simply ChatGPT, like, if we’re not connecting to the deeper facet of ourself and most of our ideas are unconscious, it’s not lengthy earlier than we’re gonna be working for our AI overlords. So, that is why it’s so essential to find our goal. So, I walked by means of that in key two.

After which, key three, I confer with you as measure your MEPS. So, MEPS stands for, it’s 4 KPIs that I speak about. MEPS stands for psychological, emotional, bodily, and non secular well-being. And what’s actually cool now could be that we’ve a lot entry to information that we are able to use to start to quantify our well-being. We are able to truly start to grasp and measure our psychological well-being, our emotional well-being, our bodily well-being, and even our non secular well-being. And so, I stroll by means of pragmatic and sensible methods on how we are able to start to make use of these because the foundational items to then transfer on to what I, the subsequent secret is, you realize, uncover your mission to MARS.

And the MARS that I’m speaking about isn’t what, you realize, Elon Musk is constructing rockets to go to a different planet. I confer with MARS as a number of automated income streams. And I feel a part of after we, as soon as we’ve unplugged from the matrix, we’ve found our goal and now we’re starting to measure our MEPS, now we are able to use these items to start to design abundance producing methods. And that is the place we get to make use of automation and AI to assist assist us. After which I additionally speak about how we are able to truly flip the change on social media. And as an alternative of it being one thing that harvests our consideration, we are able to truly use it and use its energy to do easy issues like market analysis, construct neighborhood, serve folks at giant, and see what they want and need.

So, after which after that, I get into some extra, I’d say, extra of the non secular facet of issues. I get into like methods to construct resilience, relationships, and sources. After which, you realize, by the tip of it, I begin transferring into this apply that I’ve developed, and I’m instructing round engineering synchronicities. As a result of I’ve been finding out the artwork and science of manifesting. You keep in mind when The Secret got here out and the regulation of attraction and like, it was, that was actually cool, however as a result of for me, I additionally should be intellectually stimulated, and I really want to grasp the science and the underpinnings of it, I started to review that and actually perceive how electromagnetic frequencies work, how our cells have electrical exercise, how the frequency of our cells can truly attract and herald that which we both unconsciously or consciously need. So, I sort of bridge that. So, I begin pragmatic and sensible, after which by the tip of the ebook, we’re getting somewhat bizarre.

Katie: I really like that. My journey has actually taken me into that realm as effectively in the previous couple of years, and I’ve come to understand simply how really pivotal that’s to so many points of our lives. This piece that I used to not take note of in any respect has now grow to be so core to a lot of what I do. However I might like to hone in on a few belongings you talked about. There’s clearly extra within the ebook than we are able to unpack on this one episode, however you talked about so many superb issues, and I need to go deeper on a few them.

I really like, particularly you talked concerning the energy of ideas. This was large for me. Truly, even in my kind of trauma restoration journey, I didn’t notice till I began auditing my ideas, such as you mentioned, what number of of them had been detrimental. And I really consider that our unconscious works to reply the questions we give it. But when we give it questions that we truly don’t need the solutions to, it’s going to offer us solutions we don’t need. And so, as a really surface-level instance, once I would say issues like, why is it so exhausting to shed extra pounds? Why I do that? Why is that this so exhausting? It will reply these questions, and it might be like, oh, effectively, you have got six youngsters, you have got thyroid points, you, blah, blah, blah. And once I realized to begin being attentive to that inside converse of my ideas and asking myself higher questions, I began getting dramatically higher solutions. And I do know that that’s only a very small instance, however I might love so that you can delve somewhat deeper into what you speak about in being attentive to our ideas and beginning to curate them to kind of transfer in a extra constructive path for us.

Gordy: Yeah, effectively, I really like the truth that you simply talked about a thought audit. I don’t even, I didn’t even know that you just do this, however that’s what I speak about as effectively, is we have to audit our ideas. And one of many workouts that I do even for myself, and I do once I’m facilitating for a gaggle of entrepreneurs, is I’ll simply have them freestyle their total thoughts for an hour. They usually’ll simply journal what the inside dialogue is saying. And it after they see and replicate again what the thoughts is doing, it’s alarming as a result of, for essentially the most half, this can be very disempowering. And it’s it’s continuously acquired this voice of such as you mentioned, it’s a it’s framed in a why query. And and a part of the programming of our thoughts, after we’re asking why questions, what it’s doing is it’s truly creating an ineffective course of as a result of once you ask the query, why can’t I shed extra pounds, what you’re doing to your individual system is you’re making a protection, it’s like now I’ve to defend myself towards this query of why. And so, once you, however once you ask a what or how query, such as you mentioned, now you’re asking a query, it’s like, what do I have to do to shed extra pounds? Or what do I have to do to generate abundance? How can I generate abundance? There’s no emotional set off to it. Now you’re simply, you’re asking a query to excavate solution-oriented course of. And in order that’s a giant piece as effectively.

One other one which like an instantaneous hack that I at all times speak about is simply in any given second, you may pause and say, am I having my ideas? Or are my ideas having me? And most often, folks will discover that our ideas are having us there. It’s the fixed programming and conditioning that’s simply transferring and continuously going. There’s this different train that’s actually cool {that a} good pal of mine taught me. It’s referred to as sportscaster. So, what you’ll do is you’ll sit in a dyad. So, we’ll sit throughout from one another like this. And for 5 minutes straight, we’ll truly, as if we’re a sportscaster, we’ll sportscast our ideas out loud and verbalize them. So, it could sound one thing like this: Okay, so now I’m sitting right here throughout from Katie, we’re doing a Wellness Mama podcast. I’m taking a look at myself within the digicam. Do I look okay? Okay, let me suppose that that’s this working? Are folks gonna like this podcast? Is the content material good? What are we truly gonna speak about? How do we modify folks’s lives? Okay, oh, did I brush my enamel with the appropriate toothpaste as we speak? Oh, fascinating, why did I simply take into consideration that? So, you see prefer it simply goes loopy after which comparable. However once you’re doing that with someone, and so they’re witnessing it, they’re serving to you extract plenty of the programming and conditioning. And in order that’s one other cool train.

However I feel what’s most enjoyable for me, and like the place I’m creating a physique of labor, is round this notion that our ideas are essentially the most highly effective foreign money for us to speculate. As a result of we’re investing our ideas. Like I mentioned, 40 to 60,000 ideas a day. That implies that during the last 17 days, you’ve invested 1,000,000 ideas. The place did you make investments these million ideas? What was the ROI on these ideas? The place are you gonna make investments your subsequent million ideas? And what, how are you going to make use of these ideas to design the lifetime of your desires? In order that’s one thing that I’ve been actually excited to play with as a result of think about in case you had like a Fitbit to your ideas. And you can have like this skill to measure the standard of your ideas, effectively, we’re getting there quickly sufficient. And I feel the extra we’re in a position to do this, that’s what’s going to create this, you realize, evolution of human consciousness the place we do awaken and we do transcend the programming and conditioning that’s been there for us. As a result of as you realize, for after we’re youngsters from zero to eight, we’re in a theta state and we’re mainly simply absorbing our total world and getting programmed. And so even now in our, you realize, thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties, we’re simply taking part in out the zero to eight. From zero to eight is what we’re taking part in out as adults. And so, half, such as you mentioned, a part of the trauma work goes again into these time and areas and therapeutic that which nonetheless must be healed and built-in.

So, yeah, that’s and even my, you realize, our group is, so, okay, I’ll share this actually profound, highly effective story. I shared within the ebook, however that is the pivotal story. Once I was doing the internet marketing stuff, we had a day in 2007, we had a record-breaking day the place we did over six figures in at some point. And what I went and did is I went and purchased the area title For these of you who don’t know, in internet marketing, CTR stands for click-through fee. And so, it’s successful metric that in case your click-through fee is increased, then your marketing campaign will probably be performing higher. And so, I used to be intelligent, and I wished to construct a know-how platform that will auto-optimize the click-through fee for our shoppers and advertisers. Quick ahead to 2015, I used to be deep inside a meditation, and I acquired such a transparent, highly effective message, which was, it went like this, we don’t want the next click-through fee. What we’d like is a acutely aware thought revolution. And my complete physique began shaking with this like profound reality. And from that second, that’s how now my, you realize, my complete mission in life is to measurably speed up the evolution of human consciousness, beginning with my very own. And in order that’s why the final 10 years, that’s what I’ve been engaged on and proceed to work on. And as you realize, the extra of the onion layers you peel, the extra you notice there’s extra to proceed peeling.

Katie: I really like that story. And also you additionally use the phrases engineering synchronicities. And I might love to speak about doing this kind of deliberately as a result of I’ve observed the sample in my very own life that when I’m most in a state of unconditional love and authenticity, I no less than discover synchronicities far more. And possibly it is going to be useful so that you can outline that phrase for individuals who aren’t tremendous clear on what it means. However even I not too long ago had an expertise at a convention the place I used to be simply in that state of sort of receptivity and authenticity. And it was like each dialog occurred precisely completely and performed out precisely what the folks I hoped to attach with, with the concepts I used to be attempting to be taught. Every thing simply fell into place so fantastically that I used to be for 2 weeks after on this simply absolute gratitude excessive. And so, I might love so that you can speak extra about engineering synchronicities and clarify what meaning.

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I’ve come to understand that we’re the universe experiencing and increasing itself by means of us. So, every one in all us are a distinct vantage level of the universe itself experiencing and increasing itself. So, if we need to have and herald and manifest and have a synchronicity inside our life, we are able to interface with the universe as a result of we’re the universe to do that. Properly, there’s, you realize, we are able to speak about kind of the magical, legendary points of it, that are cool and fascinating, however they’re not very sensible and pragmatic. So for me, I wished to seek out the pragmatic and sensible and science-based ways in which I can use my bodily physique and my inner system to engineer synchronicities, which I consider are the biofeedback indicators from the universe telling you that you’re now in a state of manifesting.

So what occurs, what I’ve found is that after we’re in emotional states which can be of decrease frequencies, so after we’re in concern or greed or lack, then what we’re unconsciously signaling to the universe is that that’s the frequency that we’re vibrating at. So, as a result of we’re like a magnet, that’s what we’re gonna proceed to perpetuate in our life. And that’s why when plenty of us typically are in a sufferer mode, we sort of keep there as a result of that’s what we’re drawing in. However after we’re capable of elevate our emotional states and embody, like gratitude is without doubt one of the highest frequency, vibrational frequency states you could be in. And after we’re in that state, then we’re capable of truly design and engineer with the universe to begin bringing in states of actuality that we really need that’s truly related to our soul that’s deeper than some superficial like, oh, I would like thousands and thousands of {dollars} tomorrow.

And so, one of many issues that I labored on to develop is that this course of, I name it the MAGIC meditation. And so, the magic stands for the M is for magnetize. The A is for alchemize. The G is for generate. The I is to encourage and the C is to clear. And so, it’s a seven-minute meditation, and it’s nearly like an activation. It’s to a fantastic soundtrack. And so, what we’re doing is we’re truly activating the inside magnetic frequencies of our physique. After which we’re, so we’re, we’re bringing in and we’re altering our state to herald all that which we really need. And now what occurs although, is we at all times get like, we talked about, there’s that just about like that self-sabotage inside voice that’s at all times there, the, the unconscious and unconscious. So, after we’re magnetizing and bringing in, we’re additionally, our unconscious can also be bringing within the issues that don’t serve us. And in order that’s why the A for alchemize is we, I there’s this course of that takes a couple of minute the place as soon as we deliver the whole lot in, we alchemize and transmute utilizing an vitality system in our physique, all of the detrimental vitality into constructive vitality. After which we transfer up, and we’re truly transferring.

So, the entire purpose within the system is you’re transferring up the physique. You’re transferring into the totally different vitality methods or in historic wisdoms, they name them the chakras. And so, after which from after you alchemize, you progress as much as the center. And what we do is we spend a while to generate the elevated feelings of gratitude, as if that which you already, that which you need has already occurred. As a result of once you do this, you are actually signaling to the universe, which you’re the universe, you’re already signaling that you just’re not in lack. And since you’re not in lack and also you’re already experiencing the elevated feelings of getting that which you need, you open up the sphere and also you grow to be, such as you magnetize it much more and also you deliver it in.

After which we transfer as much as the throat chakra, which is, after which we transfer to the I, which is to encourage. And encourage comes from the Latin phrase of inspirare, which was to talk reality to. And they might give that phrase to divine beings in historic occasions. And so, we do that, this field respiration train the place you then exhale out for 4 seconds, you make an auditory sound to place again into the universe that, so that you herald, you magnetize, you transmute, you generate, you encourage out. After which the final step is the C, which is evident. And that is the place we transfer as much as, you realize, the pineal gland, the third eye, you deliver our consciousness there. After which we do a deep re-oxygenation course of and deep inhales and exhales.

And so, this complete factor solely takes seven minutes. You will get entry to it at new free of charge. And, um, and once you do that, inside that day, you’ll begin seeing synchronicity. So, I, I, you realize, I noticed you at, um, Dave Asprey’s biohacking convention, and I facilitated this course of for a gaggle of individuals and, and it was to set the stage for that weekend for them. And it was superb. It will get folks would come as much as me and be like, oh my God, you received’t consider what simply occurred. I used to be, I used to be attempting to resolve this drawback. And after we did this seven-minute meditation, abruptly, the issue routinely acquired solved. And, oh, I simply met this individual that I’ve been trying to meet. So, it’s simply, it’s loopy. And, and what’s superb is like, you realize, you don’t need to put in that a lot effort. I feel that’s a part of the phantasm that we’ve fallen for is that life needs to be exhausting, and we’ve to place a lot effort, however that’s solely as a result of we’re taking part in three-dimensionally. Once we begin like connecting to our soul, which operates multi-dimensionally, it operates exterior of this bodily realm. That’s when you may hack the system, and you’ll like hack the matrix, and you’ll like, you realize, play a sport that’s somewhat bit totally different.

And that’s why I speak concerning the new millionaire. The brand new millionaire isn’t someone who’s chasing thousands and thousands of {dollars}. The brand new millionaire is someone who lives a life to positively impression thousands and thousands of individuals, beginning with their very own. And the way do they do this? Once more, they uncover their goal. They unplug from the matrix. They start to measure their MAPS, after which they uncover how they will serve thousands and thousands of individuals, which then, such as you mentioned initially of this, that’s how they generate abundance. The abundance technology turns into a byproduct of them serving thousands and thousands of individuals, having an intention to serve thousands and thousands. And also you don’t, and that doesn’t imply it’s a must to contact thousands and thousands of individuals. You may impression, you realize, 100 folks or a thousand folks, however the, the ripple impact of that may, will proliferate. After which, you realize, by means of straight or not directly, you’ll positively impression thousands and thousands of individuals. And that’s the brand new millionaire. And that’s the subsequent technology. That’s, that’s the place millennials, Gen Z are transferring to as a result of they know the outdated sport is damaged. The outdated millionaire sport is damaged. Look the place we’re.

And that’s why I really like the work you’re doing, too, as a result of a part of what I found is the outdated sport was, was very masculine. And it was a really like penetrative, like, I acquired a hoard and management and get as a lot as potential. However the brand new sport, it’s about balancing the taking part in subject. It’s about honoring the divine female. And that’s why I’m like such a giant fan of, you realize, what you’re doing for mothers as a result of we, I imply, Mom Earth is a mother.

Katie: I like it. And I do know you have got a lot extra that you just cowl within the ebook in addition to in your web site. So, I’ll put each of these hyperlinks within the present notes for all of you guys listening. However I really like that we acquired to go in a few of these instructions on this episode, and we’re going to get to do one other quick episode as effectively. So that you guys maintain an eye fixed out for that one. However Gordy, it’s at all times a pleasure. Thanks a lot. This has been a lot enjoyable.

Gordy: Yeah, no drawback. Thanks a lot.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode.

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