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Crystal Kung-Minkoff is opening up about Lisa Rinna‘s betrayal.

As she chatted with Nick Viall, 43, on his podcast concerning the present, together with what forged members aren’t allowed to do amid manufacturing, Crystal, 40, took purpose at Lisa, 60, who left the show earlier this 12 months after eight seasons, suggesting she went “too far” and supposed to “damage” Kathy Hilton, 64, with her meltdown claims of season 12.

However first, Crystal shared how Lisa introduced up a dialog they’d off-camera to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, leaving her fully “paralyzed” by the betrayal.

“I had lunch with [Lisa] after my first season, and she or he was like, ‘How’s it going? How was your first 12 months?’ I used to be like, ‘It’s arduous. You recognize, I had like 14 associates,’” Crystal recalled on the December 7 episode of The Viall Files.

As RHOBH followers will recall, Lisa mentioned in a confessional final 12 months that Crystal had suffered a falling out with 14 of her associates after joining the show in 2011.

“She brought it up on camera… She was asking me how the present was going for me, and I had some fallout as a result of I did the present, and it was very difficult for me… Stuff like this triggers folks in a approach that you’d by no means know till it occurs. You’ll be able to’t anticipate it. I used to be already going by my very own fears about doing the present, not to mention outdoors folks’s emotions about it… So I simply shared it together with her,” Crystal defined.

After opening as much as her co-star amid what she assumed was a personal dialog, Crystal was greatly surprised by Lisa’s choice to go public with her personal heartbreak, particularly contemplating Lisa was “very supportive” throughout their off-camera chat.

“She was very supportive and mentioned it occurs to all people and each season you proceed, it is going to nonetheless occur and… then it got here up and I used to be paralyzed and I couldn’t even speak about it as a result of I nonetheless was like in it,” she shared. “My associates are actually vital to me, like I’m very social. I wish to work actually arduous for my associates.”

As for why she by no means confronted Lisa about her habits, Crystal mentioned the problem died off rapidly since she “didn’t [engage].”

“I feel she then knew I wasn’t going to speak about it and it simply by no means went wherever,” Crystal famous.

Throughout filming on upcoming seasons of Housewives, Crystal mentioned she and her castmates aren’t allowed to see each other off-camera.

“You don’t get collectively when you’re filming trigger you’re not allowed to as a result of, let’s say you and I are having a combat proper, after which we exit to lunch off-camera and we make up. After which the subsequent day we movie it, sequentially it doesn’t make sense so that you’re not allowed to do this so if I see somebody off-camera, it’s going to be between seasons,” she revealed.

Getting again to Lisa, Crystal famous that sure co-stars have gone too far to create an excellent present.

“I feel when it goes like off-camera. I feel that’s what occurred final season with ex-cast members. When you’re going to go for it on the present, I feel that’s truly okay since you’re being direct with an individual however like as soon as we movie, like let it go,” she acknowledged. “Like let the present air, and also you don’t must taunt folks on-line, and like jab at folks. I simply discover that half is the stuff that goes too far.”

Relating to Lisa’s feud with Kathy, who she accused of threatening to “destroy” her sister Kyle Richards, 54, Crystal mentioned issues undoubtedly went “too far.”

“That was too far for certain like getting, , media concerned and all that, prefer it’s pointless as a result of to me that’s once you escape of the commodore of what we’re truly doing as a result of that’s once you’re simply making an attempt to harm folks,” she shared.

The Actual Housewives of Beverly Hills season 13 airs Wednesdays at 8/7c on Bravo.