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Katie: Hiya and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is all about one thing referred to as autojuvenation, which is mainly methods to use your physique’s personal regenerative capability to appear and feel youthful. And I’m right here with Dr. Anthony Youn, who is named America’s holistic plastic surgeon. He’s a nationally acknowledged board-certified plastic surgeon who’s acknowledged as a pacesetter in his area and creator of the bestselling books, The Age Repair, In Stitches, and Taking part in God. His public tv particular, The Age Repair with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been seen by tens of millions. And he additionally hosts the favored podcast, The Holistic Plastic Surgical procedure Present.

He’s essentially the most adopted plastic surgeon on social media with over 4.5 million subscribers on his YouTube channel and eight million followers on TikTok. And his new ebook, Youthful for Life, is a whole holistic information to turning again the clock on the method of growing older with autojuvenation. And we go deep on that subject at this time, in addition to procedures he does and doesn’t suggest, how he thinks that a lot may be performed with out ever turning to surgical procedure to actually enhance pores and skin look and switch again the clock on growing older. And he offers some very particular ideas for this. He’s so well-spoken and such a pleasure to speak to. So, let’s be part of Dr. Anthony. Tony, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Anthony: Thanks a lot for having me.

Katie: I’m actually excited for this dialog and to speak about how we will basically use our physique’s pure processes to age extra gracefully and even slower or reverse among the indicators of growing older. However earlier than we leap into that, I’ve a word out of your bio that you simply as soon as performed guitar and sang in a Jimmy Buffett cowl band. And since we not too long ago misplaced him, I might love to listen to this story and the way that began and what it was like.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply, I really began enjoying guitar again in school, and I’m very mediocre of a guitarist and singer. And so, once I began my residency, I simply, I’ve all the time had this sort of artistic streak. And I assumed, you already know, I’m this huge fan of Jimmy Buffett. And I heard that there have been some people who find themselves enthusiastic about placing a band collectively. So, I emailed a contact I had, and he stated, let’s do it. And we spent about, so I used to be, I did 5 years of residency. And through that point, we most likely did about 50 or 60 gigs the place we’d do like play at events, at bars and stuff. And it was my method of, I believe, dwelling out a, if I may decide one job that I may have that I simply, there’s no method I may ever do, however I might love can be like a rock star. And that was the closest that I’ll ever get to it. And as soon as I completed residency, I really moved out to California. Since then, I’ve really, and the band broke up, however since then I’ve performed for my church band sometimes and stuff like that. So, it’s, it was numerous enjoyable, however. It was undoubtedly tiring as a result of as a resident, I might even have days the place I’d work 36 hours after which I would depart the hospital, get become my like tropical garments and go play from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. at a bar after which be again to work the following morning at 6 a.m. So, it was powerful, nevertheless it was enjoyable.

Katie: Wow, I can solely think about, however most likely an amazing artistic outlet throughout an in any other case extraordinarily centered and intense interval of life. I really like that you simply did that and that’s really an ideal springboard into what would be the bulk of our dialog at this time, which is the work that you simply do now and the various hundreds of individuals that you simply’ve helped. I believe for type of simply background and start line, you utilize a time period that I’ve not heard earlier than, which I imagine is autojuvenation. And I might love so that you can clarify what meaning and type of among the background for this dialog.

Anthony: Yeah, so simply to provide the background, I completed cosmetic surgery residency coaching, and I did a 12 months fellowship in beauty cosmetic surgery out in Beverly Hills with one of many high plastic surgeons there. Then I moved again to Michigan, and I began my apply again in 2004. And inside the subsequent most likely 5 to seven years, I reached what I assumed was a pinnacle of success. On the time, as a surgeon, you gauge your success by the quantity of surgical procedure that you simply do. And we’re all the time taught in our residency and our coaching that the aim of being a surgeon is to carry individuals to the working room. And so, I all the time imagine that that must be my aim.

After which a affected person fully modified that and flipped that the other way up for me. So, I assumed I’d reached the top of success. And if you take a look at totally different fields of drugs, particularly with surgical procedure, there’s all the time a surgical procedure that’s thought of the top. And in the event you try this, you’re feeling completed. If you happen to’re a common surgeon, that’s the Whipple. It’s like an enormous most cancers surgical procedure that may take eight to 12 hours. In cosmetic surgery, it’s most likely the facelift. I imply, as a result of individuals could belief anyone to do their liposuction, however you’ll be darn positive if anyone’s gonna lower in your face that you simply’re gonna be very picky about that. And so, about 5 to seven years into apply, I assumed that I’d reached the top of success. I used to be having individuals flying in from everywhere in the nation to have me do their surgical procedure and their facelifts and all that. And I had a affected person that I did a faceless on, a very nice girl in her late 60s, and I did an operation on her that went completely. We really saved her in a single day within the hospital only for routine monitoring. Then she went dwelling, and she or he went dwelling on a Friday morning, and that Monday morning I got here into the workplace with a message from her daughter, and the message was, “Why did my mother die?” She died that weekend only a few days after I carried out a facelift on her, and it despatched me right into a tailspin. As a result of up till then, I’d by no means actually had a complication like that.

And so, I began trying like, initially, like what occurred right here? Is there one thing I may have performed to forestall this? And it seems she had an enormous coronary heart assault. Now we did have her see a heart specialist previous to her surgical procedure. She received fully cleared. She had a stress check. All the things was optimistic. There’s no purpose why this could have occurred, but it did. And for months, I beat myself up over it. I used to be completely devastated. I thought of closing out my apply, and I actually re-looked at what am I doing with my job, with my profession, with my sufferers?

And I lastly got here to the conclusion that every thing I used to be taught about being a surgeon was mistaken. The aim shouldn’t be to get individuals to the working room. The aim must be the alternative. It must be, how do I hold individuals out of the working room, but hold them feeling nice about themselves and looking out nice and all of that? And so, I actually began to spend years then trying into various strategies of how do I get individuals the place they wanna be with out bringing them to surgical procedure? And I got here up with this idea of autojuvenation and it’s utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative talents to show again the clock, to provide you that look that you simply’ve needed, to show again 5, 10 years and provide help to to really feel higher about the way you look.

Katie: Wow, that’s fairly the extreme story. And I can solely think about what it was like to really have lived that have. However I really like that you simply introduced this up, particularly about surgical procedure, as a result of I do know for most of the mothers listening, this will not be one thing a lot of them have had, however I might guess many have at the very least thought of the provision of all of the totally different choices associated to surgical procedure. I do know, weak for me personally, after having six infants, I’ve thought of several types of pores and skin elimination surgical procedure, for example. And I’ve all the time hesitated and by no means actually regarded into it severely due to simply understanding issues like fascia and the way related the entire physique is. I simply haven’t had a superb instinct about it. However I really like that you simply, having such a deep understanding of the surgical facet, nonetheless got here to this conclusion and now assist individuals keep away from it. I’m curious in the event you may stroll us by means of among the dangers that include surgical procedure and in addition among the methods round that, as a result of I believe that’s most likely a hope for lots of people to grasp there are different choices that it feels like that may work actually, rather well.

Anthony: Yeah, and I believe that one of many surgical procedures I do numerous are tummy tuck surgical procedures, and it’s primarily on mothers, individuals who’ve had, girls who’ve had a number of kids, their pores and skin has been stretched out, it doesn’t look or really feel the identical method. Now, the dangers of surgical procedure begin with loss of life, and each time anyone involves see me in session and so they say, “Hey, what’s the worst factor that may occur, Dr. Youn?” I’ll say, “You would die.” I’ll do every thing in my energy to forestall that, and we’ll take all of the steps needed that we will to make this as protected as attainable, however it doesn’t matter what I do, like with this affected person who died after the facelift, you simply by no means know, and there’s a loss of life fee with elective surgical procedure, and it’s about one in 50,000 individuals who have beauty surgical procedure will die from the operation.

Now, normally it’s not as a result of a surgeon tousled, it’s normally anesthesia-related issues, underlying diseases, and that sort of factor, however there may be that threat, and in order that’s the very first thing you wanna consider. Particularly with the stomach, it’s a troublesome factor as a result of as soon as once more, each time I get individuals, and I get so many mothers that are available and say, “Hey, I’m eager about a tummy tuck, what do you suppose?” The very first thing I’ll all the time inform them is, in the event you may be glad and wholesome and stay a fulfilled life with out going underneath the knife, then you must keep away from surgical procedure. Nonetheless, in the event you can’t, there are individuals who come to see me and so they’ve had 4 youngsters and their tummy muscle mass have been so separated, they really have again ache from it, and so they simply don’t really feel themselves the way in which that they wish to really feel, then we will discuss concerning the specifics of the operation. There are numerous issues that we will do now although that may flip again the clock, that can provide us a few of these outcomes that we have been searching for that possibly 20 years in the past, we didn’t have it, we didn’t have, and so ideally if we will attempt to level the affected person in that path, that’s what I attempt to do.

Katie: That is sensible. And that’s such an amazing balanced method. And it looks like great, knowledgeable consent. So, for the individuals who nonetheless do select to undergo with it, they’ve a deeper understanding of the chance concerned, most likely have a greater grasp on restoration and issues they will do to assist as properly. However to circle again to this concept of autojuvenation, I really like this as a result of it’s one thing I’ve been researching, at the very least the idea of with out having a phrase for it not too long ago. I did lab testing for a corporation I’m contemplating investing in, and I came upon my organic age is definitely virtually 10 years youthful than my chronological age, which was actually thrilling. And in order that’s on a mobile degree.

However I believe for lots of us, there’s additionally that component of the exterior dealing with and what our pores and skin seems like, particularly, particularly as girls. And so, I believe I might like to delve into the causes of that pores and skin growing older that’s seen after which additionally delve into a few of these issues that you simply train that may assist reverse that.

Anthony: Yeah, so thanks. So, I might take a look at basically, I imagine there are 4 main causes of growing older of our pores and skin. The primary main trigger is collagen degradation. Seventy to 80% of our pores and skin consists of collagen. Collagen is mainly what prompted our pores and skin to really feel tight and to really feel sturdy. And there’s collagen in our pores and skin, in our muscle mass, in our bones, in our joints, and different elements of our physique. However as we become older, actually beginning within the mid to late 20s, we lose about 1% of the thickness of the collagen of our pores and skin yearly. Ladies after menopause that will increase to about 2% a 12 months. And that’s why our pores and skin will get thinner as we become older. And so, to attempt to combat that course of is among the elements of autojuvenation.

Second reason for growing older of the pores and skin is oxidation or free radicals. Free radicals are mainly unstable molecules which might be created on account of simply regular metabolism. Our physique creates naturally free radicals as a byproduct of simply being alive. However we will get attacked by greater than that relying on what our way of life is. So, consuming numerous extremely processed and processed meals will improve our physique’s quantity of free radicals that it has to cope with. Fried meals additionally free radicals. Even extreme stress has been discovered to extend free radicals. And when you will have too many free radicals attacking your physique on the identical time, it might probably really harm the DNA in your pores and skin and that may trigger untimely growing older. In order that’s quantity two.

The third reason for growing older is irritation. And irritation may be acute, or it may be continual. Acute irritation can really be a superb factor. Once you get a lower and your physique reacts to the lower by creating some irritation to heal that lower, that’s really a superb factor. Typically doing sure issues, like let’s say getting a laser remedy or a chemical peel may be acute irritation and that may trigger the pores and skin really to be younger afterwards and the collagen to be tighter and younger showing and molecularly as properly.

And so, a continual irritation will not be a superb factor. And continual irritation, one of many main causes of that’s sugar. And we all know sugar causes irritation since you get sugar spikes may cause insulin spikes, insulin spikes can create continual irritation. And so, sugar is type of one of many huge causes of irritation. After which the opposite reason for irritation are superior glycation finish merchandise or AGEs. Sugar as soon as once more is a big perpetrator right here as a result of when sugar is introduced into the physique, particularly when it’s in extreme quantities, it might probably really bond to the collagen of our pores and skin and trigger the collagen, which usually is, the way in which I described, it’s just like the logs of a log cabin. Collagen are these fibros which might be usually type of caught collectively and are good and agency. However when sugar bonds to that collagen, it might probably trigger these logs to turn into frayed and that collagen to turn into mainly kinked. And that may trigger untimely growing older. So, irritation by superior glycation finish merchandise, which is when the sugar will connect the collagen, creating these AGEs and by continual irritation, sometimes by sugar spikes and insulin spikes.

After which the fourth factor, fourth reason for growing older of our pores and skin is mainly a buildup of mobile waste. And this is among the issues that lots of people extra in conventional medication don’t actually pay a lot consideration to. You will have dermatologists speaking about utilizing lotions on your pores and skin, however they don’t discuss attempting to get that strategy of autophagy revved up. And our cells, as they’re mainly present process metabolism and type of the conventional each day life, will create mobile waste. And that waste must be taken care of, recycled, even reused utilizing a course of referred to as autophagy. And that’s intracellular mainly recycling or renewal. And that solely happens when you find yourself not consuming. And so, taking time to not eat, to quick, can really trigger that course of to happen by eliminating that intracellular waste. Our cells then perform extra effectively and successfully, and that is also anti-aging as properly.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it undoubtedly leads into the query of what we will do about it, which I can guess a number of of the attainable issues we will do primarily based on the way in which you clarify that. Issues like fasting in a method that’s applicable for our hormones, decreasing our stress degree, being conscious of what we eat, and possibly consuming extra nourishing meals, much less extremely processed meals. However I’m positive there’s way more that goes into it from there. Primarily based on what you stated, I’m wondering if individuals is perhaps considering are collagen dietary supplements a good suggestion? Are there every other dietary supplements in addition to simply collagen that may help collagen and wholesome collagen matrix within the pores and skin? So, I’d like to delve into that. What are issues we will do at dwelling that assist battle every of these totally different causes?

Anthony: Precisely. And in my ebook, Youthful for Life, I’ve mainly a three-week jumpstart that includes all of it. And so, the way in which I take a look at it’s it’s food regimen, it’s what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements to take, and skincare merchandise to make use of. And in the event you give attention to these as type of the first factor, then that may get you actually began. And we now have this 21-day jumpstart the place for 21 days, you mainly give attention to these 4 issues, you may actually flip again and see enormous modifications in your pores and skin.

So so far as common issues, you talked about collagen dietary supplements. Collagen dietary supplements are very controversial. I’ve received an enormous TikTok viewers, and I posted on collagen dietary supplements, and I’ve people who find themselves saying, “Oh, my physician stated collagen dietary supplements don’t work, your physique received’t soak up it, it will get damaged down within the abdomen.” The very fact is that collagen, if you purchase collagen, you wish to ensure that it’s in collagen, hydrolyzed collagen peptides, basically. So, collagen is an enormous protein. And in the event you simply ingest collagen basically, your physique, sure, will break it down. Once you take a look at collagen dietary supplements, that’s why collagen dietary supplements, one of the best ones, are hydrolyzed collagen peptides, as a result of it takes that collagen, that vast protein, and it breaks it down into tiny little peptides and amino acids that your physique can really soak up. So, your physique does soak up hydrolyzed collagen peptide dietary supplements, and there are research which have checked out it. There are a plethora of research which have proven useful impacts in your pores and skin with collagen. In truth, I’ll simply identify one, which was a meta-analysis again in 2021 of 1,100 sufferers who took 90 days of hydrolyzed collagen dietary supplements, and so they discovered a statistically important enchancment in wrinkles, pores and skin elasticity, and pores and skin hydration. So, you’re taking a look at 1,100, it is a meta-analysis, so it is a mixture of a number of research. There are randomized managed medical trials performed with collagen discovering mainly all the identical issues. And a few of them will really take biopsies of the collagen two months after anyone begins taking collagen dietary supplements and seeing a rise within the thickness of the collagen of that pores and skin.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And does bone broth match into that class as properly? I do know there’s numerous discuss by like Dr. Kate Shanahan and others of those conventional meals that we largely have faraway from our fashionable diets that appear to be extraordinarily rejuvenating. Does bone broth match into that class as properly?

Anthony: It does. Now, curiously, bone broth makes numerous sense, however there aren’t any research that I do know of which were carried out which have really checked out bone broth and pores and skin. That being stated, what’s bone broth? You simmer all of the totally different, whether or not it’s the toes or the cartilage or any of these physique elements, for 48 to 72 hours. The massive factor with bone broth is it’s chock stuffed with collagen, however there are numerous totally different bone broths on the market. And one option to inform whether or not it does have numerous collagen is in the event you warmth it up, it turns into mainly that soup. However in the event you let it cool, if it hardens or type of solidifies into gelatin, that gelatin is definitely collagen. And also you’ll know then that if it’s received these type of two phases, relying on the temperature, that most certainly you’ve received a superb bone broth there. Now, bone broth is stuffed with collagen, so it does make sense that in the event you ingest it, that that ought to enhance the collagen of your pores and skin. I might say that it ought to, however there aren’t any true scientific research that I do know of which have both confirmed it or disproven it.

Katie: Obtained it. And also you talked about TikTok. I’ll hyperlink to yours within the present notes so individuals can discover you since you do submit numerous actually useful content material on there. I do know one other factor that has appeared to go viral on TikTok basically is the significance of hydration for pores and skin look. And I’m curious your tackle this. I’m at the moment an enormous fan of including minerals to our hydration as a result of minerals are vital, I believe, for hormones and sleep and lots of different issues as properly. However are there any research or have you ever seen in apply a profit for individuals really enhancing their hydration ranges and that benefiting their look of their pores and skin?

Anthony: I believe basically, there may be enchancment. I don’t know of any precise research which have checked out it. I imply, we additionally take a look at topicals. Once you take a look at, let’s say, moisturizers you’re type of doing the identical factor. You’re attempting to lock that hydration into your pores and skin. However the way in which I might describe that, I really had an individual ask me, “Dr. Youn, you’ve talked about 4 causes of growing older of the pores and skin. Why isn’t hydration a kind of, or dehydration?” And the actual fact is, is that dehydration isn’t essentially gonna age your pores and skin on a mobile degree, per se. Now, in the event you’re dehydrated, sure, your pores and skin can get drier. It could actually look extra wrinkled. You possibly can look older. However the truth is, is that’s not technically older pores and skin on a mobile degree. So, I undoubtedly suggest general hydrating. I believe, within the common, a glass of water is nice, however you additionally ideally wanna type of get extra particular with it. I do suppose the minerals are implausible. And also you solely must ask skilled athletes, school athletes. So a lot of them now know that it’s not simply ingesting water or, God forbid, Gatorade. It’s ingesting water and including these particular minerals into it might probably actually assist stop individuals from cramping. I really put minerals in my water the mornings that I function. As I’m getting older, I’m discovering that my fingers sometimes will really cramp up. And so, I began placing minerals in my water each morning, and I’ve that additionally at lunchtime once I’m between operations and stuff, and it actually helps me, too.

Katie: I used to be fascinated to learn this statistic as a result of if we give it some thought, we’re typically advised we’re 60 no matter % water, however actually as people we’re that share of salt water or like mineral-rich water and that’s vital for electrical communication and a lot. And I learn that an individual who lives in a sizzling local weather or an athlete will lose extra minerals in 5 years than the typical individual will in a complete lifetime. And so that basically helped me notice like that is one thing to be intentional about replenishing if I’m going to maintain doing all these actions that launch all these minerals by means of sweat. I additionally wish to circle again to autophagy and see if there are any good common tips for type of maximizing fasting or intermittent fasting for the pores and skin well being facet particularly.

Anthony: Yeah, one of many issues that I encourage individuals to do, as a result of some individuals will quick for weight reduction. Some individuals will quick for hormones. Some individuals will quick, they’ve received many, many causes, however once I’m taking a look at fasting purely from my perspective with my followers, my sufferers, it comes all the way down to anti-aging. And so, one of many issues that I like to recommend, and all people fasts just a little bit in a different way. I attempt to encourage individuals to do a minimal. Now, numerous my followers should not fairly as holistically educated as yours. And so, for me, I attempt to encourage my followers to only begin with the fundamentals. And so, if all you begin off with is a 12-hour in a single day quick, that’s okay. You understand, that’s an enormous begin for some individuals. Ideally attempting to get that to a 16-hour quick. So, you cease consuming at 8 p.m. and then you definately don’t eat till midday the following day is what I attempt to encourage individuals to do. A part of the 21-day jumpstart in my ebook does include intermittent fasting.

One of many issues that I’ve, that we’ve seen work rather well, was that on the day you break the quick, as an alternative of simply going again to your regular food regimen, you go to an autophagy supporting food regimen, okay? And what I imply by that’s that we do know that there are specific meals, though you break the quick, you should still be capable to promote autophagy and that autophagy persevering with. And we all know that in the event you eat roughly 25 grams or extra of protein a day, that can cease autophagy together with carbs. So, protein and carbs actually decelerate or cease the autophagy course of. Wholesome fat, nonetheless, don’t. So, there are two forms of meals that may really promote autophagy you could eat and theoretically proceed that autophagy course of throughout the remainder of that day. And people are wholesome fat like omega-3 fatty acids and monounsaturated fatty acids and meals which might be stuffed with polyphenols. So basically, you’re taking a look at omega-3 fatty acid wealthy meals, so chilly water fish, salmon, mackerel, trout, tuna, anchovies, that sort of factor. If you happen to take a look at monounsaturated fatty acids, then you definately’re speaking about nuts and seeds. After which in the event you’re taking a look at attempting to push polyphenol-rich meals, which polyphenols seem to additionally assist promote the autophagy course of, these are type of just like the darkish coloured fruits, like blackberries, plums, blueberries, strawberries, even black beans. And so, what we’ve performed with the 21-day jumpstart is on these days and also you break the quick, as an alternative of going again to regular food regimen, you go on this basically autophagy food regimen to proceed that strategy of autophagy, basically till you will have an everyday breakfast the next morning. And we discovered that to be actually efficient for individuals.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it is sensible as a result of your physique can be in a heightened sense of with the ability to soak up issues and also you’re placing actually wealthy, nutrient-dense issues into your physique that it will be willingly uptaking. I’ve seen too, I’ve performed numerous longer fasts, and I’ve talked on right here about that earlier than. And I discover that a number of days into a quick, I really will begin craving these actual meals that you simply talked about, particularly as I’ve gotten an increasing number of used to fasting. I might crave anchovies and raspberries and type of odd meals. But it surely is sensible if you clarify it that method. It’s like my physique was most likely prepared for these meals to come back again in and to have the ability to soak up them.

I do know one other controversial subject in relation to the subject of growing older and pores and skin particularly is the subject of daylight publicity. And I’ve been an enormous proponent on right here of issues like morning daylight for circadian rhythm and hormonal stability. And I personally have some genes the place if I take vitamin D dietary supplements, my vitamin D ranges don’t change. So, I do should get some from the solar. However we additionally know that an excessive amount of solar, after all, can prematurely age the pores and skin. So, I’m curious your tackle that and what you discover is an effective stability. I have a tendency to only put on a hat if I’m within the solar, however I really like the sensation of sunshine on the remainder of my pores and skin. So how do you assist individuals or what do you advise on that?

Anthony: So, I believe that like with numerous issues in life, moderation is the important thing. I’ve pals of mine who’re dermatologists who each morning, it might be cloudy out and so they could also be sitting in a basement all day, however they’ll put their sunscreen on. After which I’ve holistic well being pals of mine who’re anti-sunscreen. I’ll let you know for me, I believe that there’s a good glad medium there someplace. Primary, doctor, particularly as a plastic surgeon, I’ve seen horrific pores and skin most cancers points in sufferers of mine and even pals of mine the place they get a pores and skin most cancers, they get Mohs surgical procedure, and half their nostril is gone afterwards. They usually come to me and I’m taking a look at like, how do I reconstruct this? I imply, in the event you get a pores and skin most cancers in your face, it may be completely devastating. And so, you wanna do what you may to forestall that, particularly in the event you’ve received lighter coloured pores and skin and also you’re at greater threat.

So undoubtedly I encourage individuals general to put on sunblock, at the very least an SPF of 30, particularly if you’re gonna be out within the solar. Nonetheless, I additionally know dwelling in Detroit, how therapeutic it’s to get the solar in your face, to see the daylight within the morning, and to actually get that solar. I imply, we escape to the Caribbean sometimes each winter as a result of man, it’s simply powerful right here within the wintertime. So, I do suppose that there’s a contented medium there. I believe that monitoring your vitamin D ranges, I believe is certainly vital. Ideally carrying the sunscreen, particularly in the event you’re gonna be out, however on the identical time, additionally getting that solar that you simply want on your personal psychological well being and on your non secular well being and on your inside well being as properly. So, I believe that there’s a contented medium there. I don’t suppose you need to go excessive a technique or one other.

Katie: That’s an amazing perspective. And also you talked about collagen dietary supplements. I’m curious if there are every other dietary supplements that you simply suggest basically. I do know there’s a very personalised facet to any type of supplementation, however I might guess there are some which might be thought of usually supportive of pores and skin well being growing older.

Anthony: Yeah, so one of many elements of the 21-day jumpstart is a quite simple complement routine that I like to recommend mainly for everyone. So, the primary one is gonna be the collagen complement. The second is gonna be a multivitamin. The third one is gonna be omega-3 fatty acids. So as soon as once more, utilizing one thing that’s high-quality omega-3s, I believe it’s tremendous vital. What we do know is that these are wholesome fat that may really create a discount of irritation contained in the physique. And one of many 4 predominant causes of pores and skin growing older is irritation. And that’s one of many huge issues that you are able to do to combat that. So, omega-3 fatty acids, ideally from fish. If you happen to’re vegan, then go together with the allergy base, that’s high-quality.

After which a each day probiotic, I believe is essential. Increasingly we’re studying that there’s a connection between the intestine and our pores and skin. And there’s a gut-skin axis that we’re studying an increasing number of about. And there are precise research now which might be correlating sure points or situations that you’ve got within the intestine, like let’s say inflammatory or IBS with inflammatory pores and skin points. And so, taking a each day probiotic, the thought clearly is, and also you’ve talked about this in your present earlier than, however useful micro organism in your intestine, the well being of the intestine will actually present within the well being of your pores and skin.

After which the ultimate factor I like to recommend is simply taking an antioxidant complement of a wide range of antioxidants. We all know that our produce, our vegetables and fruit, should not have the identical diet now than they did 50 years in the past. There really was a research, I’m unsure in the event you’ve talked about this in your podcast earlier than, however they really checked out our produce from the years 1950 to 1999. So, 49 years’ value of produce. They usually checked out how a lot dietary worth the produce had yearly. And that dietary worth decreased yearly in six predominant vitamins. And people embrace vitamin C, protein, and iron. And so undoubtedly as soon as once more, taking let’s say a each day antioxidant complement can assist with these tyes of potential nutrient deficiencies.

Katie: And I really like that you simply tackle the interior facet in such an in depth method. I really feel like typically within the skincare dialog, the interior facet will get ignored. And I’ve had this dialog equally within the oral healthcare area with creating my toothpaste and all of the analysis that went into that and realizing we consider the mouth as type of this remoted a part of our physique, nevertheless it’s so interconnected. And it’s not simply preserving our tooth clear by brushing and flossing, which is after all vital, nevertheless it’s issues just like the fat-soluble vitamin content material in our physique and the mineral content material in our physique and the way these issues are interacting in our saliva to have the ability to create mineral stability in our mouth.

And I might guess there’s additionally this facet in relation to pores and skin well being, the place all this stuff we now have in our physique, after all, are gonna feed our pores and skin from the within out. After which after all, there are issues we will do from the surface in. So, in relation to skincare, what are some good common tips for individuals to pay attention to to type of battle these indicators of growing older?

Anthony: And I believe what you stated hits it proper on the nail. Dermatologists historically focus simply on skincare and holistic well being consultants focus simply on the intestine. And I’ve pals of mine who’re like, “Oh, you need your pores and skin to be higher, focus in your intestine.” And it’s like, properly, you are able to do each. You possibly can focus in your intestine, and you should utilize the suitable skincare. And ideally that’s the way you wish to deal with it. And I don’t know of lots of people speaking about each. So, I respect asking a query.

What I normally suggest for people who find themselves saying, “Hey, what do I do for a easy skincare routine that I do know is gonna work?” And also you don’t have to spend so much of time. You don’t should do a 12-step Korean skincare routine. If you happen to hold it to the fundamentals, that technically is sufficient. So, each morning you wanna cleanse your pores and skin with a cleanser applicable on your pores and skin sort. If you happen to’ve received oily pores and skin, then ideally a foaming-type cleanser will assist to cut back a few of that extra oil. If you happen to’ve received dry pores and skin, then use a milky or hydrating cleanser.

After which after that, you wanna use an antioxidant serum. Vitamin C is the commonest that almost all skincare firms have. And the thought is you wanna combat off these free radicals. As soon as once more, one of many 4 predominant causes of pores and skin growing older, free radicals, oxidation; antioxidants combat that. So, utilizing an antioxidant serum each morning may be very useful. A bonus is in the event you mix vitamin C and vitamin E serums, and a few of them include each of them in a single, they’re discovered to be synergistic in research and preventing free radicals. So, in the event you wanna take that to the following degree, not only a vitamin C, do a vitamin C and E serum within the morning.

After which I might comply with that with a sunscreen. As soon as once more, we talked about type of moderation. If you happen to want just a little little bit of solar, by all means do what you’ll want to do on your personal bodily and psychological well being. And that’s all you need to technically do within the morning: cleanse, serum, antioxidant serum, and sunscreen.

At evening, you wanna cleanse your pores and skin. If you happen to solely cleanse your pores and skin as soon as a day, be sure that it’s at the very least at evening since you gotta do away with the day’s value of mud, air pollution, grime, and your make-up particularly, okay? Positively use a cleanser. Some individuals even double cleanse. We’re utilizing oil cleanser first to do away with type of the grime and the oil and the make-up, after which comply with that up along with your common cleanser afterwards.

And then you definately wanna apply an anti-aging moisturizer or cream. The one that almost all plastic surgeons and dermatologists suggest, the one which I like to recommend as a place to begin is a retinol. Retinol is a type of vitamin A and might be essentially the most scientifically studied anti-aging ingredient that there’s. And the thought behind that’s not solely does it combat growing older, nevertheless it additionally causes the pores and skin to show over, it helps to cut back darkish spots, and it might probably even probably reverse early pre-skin cancers. So, it’s an enormous deal. And in the event you decide one anti-aging cream, then I might decide a retinol. And most skincare merchandise have some type of retinol in them. Of their, let’s say, even cream.

If you happen to wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, be happy. You understand, numerous us, we grew up with our mothers making use of chilly cream at evening. You don’t should cope with chilly cream. Lots of these chilly lotions I’m not an enormous fan of due to all of the perfume and all that that may be irritating to your pores and skin. However in the event you wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, relying on how your pores and skin is, then be happy to do this. However as soon as once more, preserving in thoughts, like hydrating with water, that’s not gonna be anti-aging on a mobile degree, however may be extra for consolation.

After which the ultimate factor is each three days or so, you wanna ideally exfoliate your pores and skin. So, with both a bodily exfoliator, which is usually a little scrub, or you are able to do a chemical exfoliation with an alpha hydroxy acid. And technically that’s it. So, morning, you cleanse, you apply an antioxidant serum, after which a sunscreen, and the night you cleanse, apply an anti-aging cream like a retinol, moisturizer as wanted, after which twice every week or so exfoliate your pores and skin.

Katie: And as you have been explaining that, and that was an amazing checklist, by the way in which, I used to be considering too, these are additionally nutrient deficiencies that usually exist in Individuals, particularly internally. Like we’ve seen our ranges of vital issues like vitamin C, like vitamin A decline, particularly with age and particularly with the way you defined our meals has misplaced nutrient density through the years. So, it is sensible, such as you’re saying, take a multifaceted method, nourish your self from the within out to provide your physique these vitamins, after which additionally apply them to the pores and skin. And then you definately’re type of hitting each side of it and giving your physique one of the best probability at, such as you stated, this isn’t that we’re doing one thing to the physique, it’s serving to the physique do what it already is aware of methods to do.

Anthony: And that’s precisely what I imply by the entire strategy of autojuvenation. It’s taking all of these issues that possibly no person has actually put all collectively and saying, “Hey, you already know what, we will put all this collectively and we will flip again the clock, really feel higher, look higher, have higher vitality.” And in the event you wanna take another steps, you already know, there are different issues you are able to do like pink gentle remedy at dwelling. That’s a good way to additionally assist to show again the clock of your pores and skin. Some individuals do dermaplaning, which basically is a remedy we do within the workplace the place you take away a layer of useless pores and skin cells, and you are able to do that at dwelling. There’s a lot that you are able to do that doesn’t entail injections or surgical procedure.

Katie: I really like that. That was going to be considered one of my follow-up questions as properly was, is pink gentle useful? It’s one thing I’ve experimented with. I believe even useful for thyroid well being for me personally was a factor I seen. And now there are such a lot of dwelling gadgets which might be way more inexpensive than they was and that may make that, such as you stated, a house remedy as properly.

Anthony: And there are research, quite a lot of research that do present useful results of pink gentle remedy therapies on the standard of your pores and skin. The query, the research haven’t regarded on the actual mechanism. We expect that which will assist with the mitochondria and serving to with general having your cells basically be extra superpowered basically. We don’t know 100% for positive if that’s what causes the anti-aging, the bodily advantages so far as in your pores and skin, however we do know that there are a number of research that present that the pores and skin does look younger in the event you do common pink gentle remedy therapies on it.

Katie: Nice to know. I’m additionally curious, one other factor that appears to be circulating TikTok is the development of doing several types of like lymphatic or facial therapeutic massage, the place I’ve performed for years dry brushing on the remainder of my physique, not a lot my face. I’m curious if there’s any significance to that that you simply’ve seen in your work. I might guess these are at the very least most likely not dangerous practices, whether or not or not they’re tremendous efficient is perhaps up for debate. I simply seen, for example, if I do lymphatic therapeutic massage on my face earlier than mattress, I are inclined to sleep rather well. And if I do dry brushing within the morning, I get a burst of vitality. However past that, do you’re feeling like there’s something useful to it?

Anthony: So, I believe what you get with each of these is you do get the, mainly you get your lymph channels extra energetic. And so, we now have lymph channels in our physique, for individuals don’t fairly perceive what that’s, is, you already know, we’ve received blood vessels, we now have veins and arteries that transfer blood, however there’s really a separate system of type of like, like vessels basically which might be referred to as lymph and lymph basically strikes immune cells and excessive protein sort of fluid by means of our physique. And so, after we develop, let’s say we now have irritation of the physique, you already know, both from an harm or generally it’s from consuming the mistaken meals and stuff like that, then you may develop fluid that type of builds up and it builds up and also you don’t do away with that fluid. You possibly can’t push it out by means of the arteries and veins. You push it out by means of the lymphatic system. And that’s what lots of people like with dry brushing. The rationale why you don’t dry brush from the within out is since you wish to push that fluid in direction of the path of the lymphatics. After I do surgical procedure on individuals, we attempt to have individuals therapeutic massage in direction of the path of these lymphatics to assist transfer that fluid by means of. So, utilizing, let’s say a gua sha gadget, utilizing, let’s say a jade curler, that’s what that’s doing helps to maneuver that fluid by means of. Now, in the event you add that with sure issues like coolness, lots of people put their jade curler within the fridge or the freezer, then you may also assist to shrink among the pores and skin down quickly.

As soon as once more, we’re not speaking a few long-term sort of a change, however you may see some good enhancements. So, in the event you’re going to go to, let’s say, a category reunion and also you wish to do some gua sha previous to going out, that may assist snatch your neckline just a little bit extra and provide help to really feel higher about your look then, by all means, that’s good. Dry brushing, although, additionally provides on high of that, although, the advantage of exfoliation of our pores and skin. You understand, Koreans have performed that sort of factor for tons of of years, however they’re not good. You understand, in the event you’ve ever been to a Korean spa, it’s not only a dry brush. They take what basically seems like sandpaper and so they simply rub your physique from head to toe with it. Some individuals adore it, some individuals hate it as a result of it’s painful, however afterward, your pores and skin’s gonna really feel clean as a child’s butt.

Katie: I’ve gotten to have that have as soon as and it was fairly the expertise, however I don’t suppose the tip of my grownup life has ever felt so comfortable because it did after that. So, I might be within the class of people that adore it. Curious from a extra superior perspective too, I believe all of this stuff are so foundational and vital for everybody.

I typically discuss this; the easy issues can typically be ignored due to their simplicity. Even when somebody needs to do the extra superior biohacks, I all the time say get gentle dialed in first, get sleep dialed in, get diet dialed in, as a result of anything you do goes to be simpler anyway. However don’t simply leap to the costly shiny objects first, since you’re going to get a greater bang on your buck in the event you do the foundational issues first. So, I might guess there’s very a lot an analogous factor in relation to pores and skin therapies. However I do know that at the very least from the web, I’ve seen there’s dozens at the very least choices of extra superior skincare therapies individuals can do both at dwelling or in workplace. And I might love to listen to your tackle those which might be really efficient and value it or possibly any that aren’t actually value it and or possibly extra dangerous to keep away from.

Anthony: Yeah, so I imply, the very first thing is once I take a look at it’s a bang on your buck. And the issue that we now have in beauty medication proper now’s that there are such a lot of gadgets on the market. And the gadget firms will promote their gadgets to customers attempting to type of stress medical doctors and med spots to purchase them saying, “Oh, in the event you use this, then you definately’re going to get extra individuals within the door.” And it turns into a scenario the place if all you will have is a hammer, every thing seems like a nail, and you need to be as a shopper, you will need to pay attention to this.

So, in the event you’re going to get a beauty remedy performed, you wish to just remember to go to a spot that has a plethora of choices accessible for you, so that they don’t simply select the one gadget they’ve that they use on all people. They select a tool that’s going to work finest for you. I might begin with the fundamentals. If you happen to’re new to the cosmic area and also you say, “Hey, look, I’ve been doing every thing that you simply’re speaking about, Dr. Youn. I’m doing the food regimen stuff. I’m intermittent fasting. I’m utilizing the skincare and dietary supplements, however I’ve received these spots that simply received’t go away. They usually actually, I really feel like I’d wish to clear my pores and skin up. What are you able to try this’s not going to be costly or tremendous painful?” Very first thing I might suggest can be to start out on a brightening cream. Brightening cream that accommodates kojic acid, niacinamide, and/or licorice root extract. That may assist with the darkish spots from the within out. However if you wish to take that to the following degree, contemplate IPL therapies, Intense Pulse Gentle. This is sort of a laser. The factor with IPL that’s nice is that the gadgets should not tremendous costly to buy, and numerous locations have them. It’s chemical free. So, on your listeners who’re actually eager to attempt to keep away from extra chemical substances within the surroundings, that is actually simply gentle that can really zap the darkish spots, trigger them to show darker, and inside a few week, they begin to slup off. You mix that with a superb pure brightening cream and that may actually goal these spots properly. In order that’s for spots.

If you happen to’re searching for general simply facial rejuvenation, microneedling is a good way to do this. Microneedling, I believe, is big with autojuvenation as a result of it basically is utilizing your physique’s personal therapeutic mechanisms to really flip again the clock. I discussed earlier, collagen in our pores and skin, they’re type of just like the logs of a log cabin. They’re these fibrils that stick collectively. And as we become older, they turn into extra kinked, and so they begin to collapse a bit. And any of the therapies that we do, whether or not it’s laser, chemical peels, microneedling, we’re inflicting a managed trauma to the pores and skin. That trauma to the collagen causes the collagen because it heals to heal again in a tighter style. Primarily like placing these logs again tightly into that log cabin. When the remedy is so aggressive that it’s too damaging, then you may get scarring, and we don’t wanna go that far, clearly.

Microneedling is a good remedy that may be very cheap in comparison with different forms of therapies as a result of the gadget that we use to do it actually prices us possibly $3,000 or $4,000 to buy, which within the scheme of beauty medication in comparison with $200,000 for a laser will not be that unhealthy. And what that does, it makes tiny little pokes within the floor of the pores and skin, creating that acute irritation, inflicting the collagen to tighten up. If you happen to wanna take that one step additional, then you may apply PRP to the floor of your pores and skin and that accommodates development components. PRP mainly, what we do is we draw your blood, we spin it down, take away the platelets, that are chock stuffed with your individual pure development components. After which if you do the microneedling, mainly these tiny little holes which might be made by these tiny little needles go to the deeper pores and skin. If you happen to do it in a short time after the microneedling and also you apply that PRP on the floor of your pores and skin, it’ll seep into these tiny little holes to basically rejuvenate your pores and skin from the within out. And that is all pure. It’s simply utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative processes. And that additionally, as soon as once more, in comparison with hundreds of {dollars} for a laser or a deep, deep chemical peel, a lot, a lot cheaper.

Katie: That’s nice to know. And I do know you go into much more depth in your ebook, which I wish to be sure that we talked about, it’s referred to as Youthful for Life. And I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes as properly, since you get very detailed and you’ve got that complete, I imagine, 21-day plan in there. And so, there’s numerous actually detailed data in there.

However I might additionally like to get your type of speedy fireplace tackle among the extra controversial issues associated to cosmetic surgery and all that goes with it. I suppose the primary one can be issues like laser hair elimination since you talked about lasers are costlier. I do know there’s ache concerned with that one, good or unhealthy or detached so far as impact on the physique and what you suggest or don’t there.

Anthony: I believe that may be very useful for sure individuals, particularly in the event you’ve received points with folliculitis, in the event you’ve received points with ingrown hairs, then that may be very useful. Generally, we suggest going to a dermatologist or plastic surgeon’s workplace, however there are actually at-home laser hair elimination gadgets which have turn into fairly efficient. And so, if, let’s say you reside in an space and also you don’t have entry to a health care provider, look into a few of these at-home laser hair gadgets, as a result of it may be, as soon as once more, fairly efficient.

Katie: And so far as I do know, there’s none that work rather well for gentle coloured hair. That’s the draw back for me.

Anthony: That’s the concern, is you want pigment within the hair as a result of the precise lasers goal colours. Principally, they create warmth primarily based off of the colour. And so most laser hair elimination gadgets, the colour is brown. And so, it really works rather well with gentle pores and skin, darkish hair. If you happen to’ve received gentle pores and skin and lightweight hair doesn’t work as properly, sadly. And also you don’t actually have any, aside from electrolysis, there aren’t every other nice choices for it sadly.

Katie: Okay, that’s what I assumed, however good to know and confirm. The following semi extra controversial one I might ask about is Botox. I do know that is undoubtedly widespread amongst numerous the age teams, at the very least the people who find themselves listening. It’s one thing I’ve all the time had numerous hesitation round, simply having recovered from autoimmune illness. I’m not a fan of placing something that my physique could not acknowledge in my physique, however I do know many ladies do go for Botox. So, what’s your tackle Botox and if professionals, cons, what to weigh?

Anthony: So, it’s the preferred beauty remedy within the historical past of the world. About 5 million or extra individuals bear Botox yearly. Chances are you’ll not have identified this as we discuss. I’ve some like proper right here. And what Botox does is it’s a neurotoxin. It’s one of the vital highly effective toxins within the universe that we all know of. However in the event you inject within the tiniest quantity within the muscle mass, it’ll stop the nerve transmission to these muscle mass and trigger these muscle mass to not work for about three or 4 months. And in the event you inject it into wrinkles, just like the entrance lens between the eyebrows, the brow, or the crow’s toes, it might probably trigger these wrinkles, basically, these muscle mass, to then calm down and people wrinkles to clean out.

There are a handful of individuals on-line who do really feel that they’ve had systemic reactions to Botox, to the place they’ve had sure forms of diseases. I’ve performed numerous analysis into it. In my apply, we most likely handled 5,000 – 10,000 individuals minimal with Botox. I’ve by no means had a significant complication from it of these 5,000, 10,000 individuals, not one. However we do know that Botox, when it’s injected, can really get into the cerebral spinal fluid. There have been research which have checked out mice and discovering that. So, you already know, I believe with something, it’s gonna be a threat profit evaluation. I’m not a fan of younger individuals getting Botox as prophylaxis. I believe that’s loopy. There are people who find themselves encouraging that. I believe that in the event you’ve received these traces, they actually hassle you, you wanna strive it, begin small, begin within the frown traces between the brows, and you’ll all the time add extra later if you need.

Katie: That is sensible. And I’m actually not one to guage if anyone chooses to do this. The one I might say doesn’t look like an amazing concept to me. And hopefully this isn’t a development that’s catching on. I’ve seen individuals injecting it into their lure muscle mass to make their neck look thinner. And to me, activating a whole muscle doesn’t look like one of the best concept.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply that you already know what that’s, is that there are medical doctors on the market who’re utilizing the Barbie phenomenon to attempt to earn money. And so, the thought is it’s Entice Tox or Barbie Tox is what they’re calling it to attempt to get a Barbie neck. There’s all the time medical doctors on the market, sadly, who’re attempting to control social media and their followers to get stuff that basically isn’t all that useful for them. And a part of it’s to allow them to get within the information. You understand, it’s a clout factor. Individuals are doing it for clout. And it’s unlucky. You understand, it’s the identical factor with a few of them recommending like Barbie makeovers. If you happen to do all these operations to seem like Barbie. And it’s simply because the Barbie film was so widespread.

However in the long run, with traditional surgical procedure, much less is extra. I inform my sufferers, you by no means remorse traditional surgical procedure that you simply didn’t do. You solely remorse the work that you simply did that you simply possibly shouldn’t have had performed. So actually all the time give it some thought. And I’m a plastic surgeon. I do numerous surgical procedure, however the factor is you wish to use surgical procedure all the time as a final resort. And sadly, that’s not the case for lots of medical doctors on the market. It’s very disappointing.

Katie: And one other much more controversial one, after all, is breast implants. And I’ve had individuals on right here, each medical doctors and individuals who have skilled signs like a breast implant sickness. So, I’m curious your tackle that and any suggestions you will have earlier than, throughout, after, or basically.

Anthony: So yeah, I used to be one of many first plastic surgeons to go public that I imagine breast implant sickness is actual. And I had numerous my colleagues very indignant with me. You understand, I went by means of my conventional coaching and was advised dogma in my coaching is that breast implants don’t make individuals sick. And numerous plastic surgeons regarded on the moratorium being lifted on silicone breast implants again in 2006, 2007, as being proof that implants are protected.

The very fact is, if you take a look at literature outdoors of the cosmetic surgery scientific literature, you take a look at the rheumatology literature, and there are undoubtedly research and surveys and case studies of people that do get sick from their implants. And if you take implants out of anyone who believes they’ve breast implant sickness, about 55 to 85 % of them, their signs will enhance with these implants taken out. I do imagine and I do know numerous holistic well being influencers who’ve breast implants, a few of them we’re pals with, widespread pals with, and so they’re wholesome with them, however that’s not all people. And I believe it’s a person course of. We have to know extra about it and sufferers should be knowledgeable of it. The horrible factor, although, is I do know that there are plastic surgeons on the market telling sufferers that once they come to them and I’ve sufferers inform me this, I went to see this physician, I advised him I believe my implants are making me sick and he stated I must see a psychiatrist. Not get my implants out. I must see a psychiatrist. It’s maddening.

Katie: Wow. Nicely, thanks for clearing that up. And I’m glad to listen to on so many of those ranges that there are such a lot of choices individuals can do even from dwelling that may make a noticeable distinction. I believe that’s actually encouraging information. And I really like that it comes from you being able to suggest each and with the ability to do the extra superior procedures as properly that you simply’re nonetheless the voice of claiming, and there’s this stuff you are able to do that aren’t surgical and surgical procedure won’t be the reply. I really like such a balanced viewpoint. And I really like that you’ve got been this voice for therefore many ladies. And a few questions I like to ask for the tip of interviews. The primary being if there’s a ebook or variety of books which have had a profound influence on you personally, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.

Anthony: So, I learn the ebook, How To not Die, and I’m not vegan or plant-based, however I actually discovered that one modified my outlook, and actually helped to push me to jot down the ebook that I wrote, Youthful for Life. And the explanation why I believe I discovered it so fascinating is as a result of it was so primarily based in research and references. And that was one thing that for me, I assumed, you already know what, if I’m gonna write a ebook, I wanna have my ebook be as well-researched as his. Now, as soon as once more, I’m not plant primarily based. And among the issues that Dr. Greger has in his ebook, I disagree with, however I do admire that he did go the additional route and that every thing in there has proof behind it, as a result of there are such a lot of books on the market that simply put individuals’s opinions on the market and there’s no precise proof behind it. And the truth that he does embrace all these references and every thing, to me, that was an enormous deal.

Katie: I’ll embrace a hyperlink to that within the present notes as properly. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that could possibly be associated to the issues we’ve talked about or fully unrelated recommendation.

Anthony: Yeah, my predominant recommendation is you could appear and feel your finest with out going underneath the knife. If you happen to simply keep on with the rules of autojuvenation: food regimen, what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements, and skincare. If you happen to simply keep on with that, you’re going to be forward of 98% of individuals. If you happen to add a few of these different issues we talked about, pink gentle remedy, dermaplaning, in the event you take note of your sleep, the suitable forms of train, scale back your environmental exposures, and also you’ll be even farther. So, give attention to these issues first. If you happen to’re eager about cosmetic surgery, do that different stuff first earlier than you go see a plastic surgeon as a result of hopefully you could discover that by doing all this, your want to see a plastic surgeon goes away.

Katie: Nicely, I respect all this stuff that you simply’ve shared with us on this podcast, like I stated, I do know there’s a lot extra in your ebook, so extremely suggest you guys examine that out. There’s an absolute wealth of information in there. Thanks a lot on your time. This has been such a enjoyable dialog and I’m so grateful we received you coming.

Anthony: Thanks a lot, Katie, respect it.

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