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Katie: Hi there and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is with certainly one of my expensive private mates and it’s all about back-to-school well being routines and stress administration for the entire household. And I’m right here with Tina Anderson, who you may need heard from earlier than. I’ll hyperlink to her earlier episodes within the present notes, however she is, like I stated, a pricey private pal and somebody whose work I respect deeply.
Her journey into the well being world was fairly distinctive. She truly started her profession as a trial lawyer who specialised in settling circumstances by bringing either side collectively, which is a private ardour of hers. However as soon as she had children, she realized that was actually excessive stress for her household. And so she was ready to make use of her authorized abilities to level her profession in a course because the in-house counsel for a household firm in prescribed drugs. However what she noticed there made her change course once more, as a result of she was annoyed by lots of the abuses she noticed within the pharmaceutical business. And he or she turned towards the sector of pure well being and located her life’s work and goal.
And he or she started to analysis all she might about illness prevention and good well being upkeep and obtained deeply into intestine well being and the way related the intestine is for total well being. And so to share all of this data with the world, she and her husband created a complement firm largely primarily based round probiotics. And so they now have a complete line of actually impactful dietary supplements that my household takes.
However on this episode, we go deep on the subject of preparing for again to high school. We discuss parenting, mindset, together with a implausible technique that her dad used that helped form her optimistic mindset. We discuss her life mantra that I discovered from her. After which we go deep on key components for good intestine well being, the most important myths about probiotics, what to know when on the lookout for a probiotic, how 90% of serotonin is produced within the intestine, what psychobiotics are, and a lot extra. It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to Tina. So let’s be a part of her now. Tina, welcome again.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here with you.
Katie: It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to you. We’re very a lot actual life mates and I additionally contemplate you want one of many folks I am going to for recommendation. You’ve obtained children who are actually grown and who you have got superior relationships with. And I like having you as a sounding board and a pal. And I’m glad that immediately I get to ask you a few of those self same questions and we get to document it and let others share the dialog as properly. So I’m very grateful that you just’re right here.
And for this episode, we needed to give attention to the theme of again to high school. I do know I’m gearing up for that with my children proper now. Loads of different households in all probability are as properly. And you’ve got not less than greater than 18 years of expertise of this together with your children and their varied completely different ages. So I really feel like this can be a matter that might be a complete collection of episodes each on the bodily well being aspect, the psychological well being aspect, the stress reduction aspect, the group, the getting again in a routine. There’s so many issues we might cowl. However to begin broad, I’d love to listen to in the event you guys had any kind of traditions, routines or something in your loved ones across the again to high school time.
Tina: Yeah, you realize, I believe what I simply have such fond reminiscences of is simply the entire going again to high school procuring. You recognize, they beloved getting their faculty provides after they have been little and, you realize, we’d all the time exit for ice cream afterwards and simply form of make it form of enjoyable, a bit of custom. And so, after which we might do, you realize, the opposite enjoyable half was like discovering on the market’s a instructor, you realize, after they return to high school and so they discover out their instructor and it will, it will, we’d all go collectively and it will be this unveiling. And it was simply, it was enjoyable. There was stress concerned in it as a result of we’re like, oh, what in the event that they don’t get a pal that they need of their class and all that. But it surely was, it was all the time, we all the time tried to make it actually enjoyable.
Katie: I like that. I believe my expertise is a bit of completely different with homeschooling, though we do nonetheless the college procuring half. However for us, it’s like gearing up for the sports activities and so they nonetheless have very lively social lives, however often by means of their actions versus by means of faculty. However one factor I do know that may be a concern for lots of households is, and particularly with youthful children, that again to high school section and reintroducing with a much bigger group of individuals tends to even be generally a bit of little bit of an immune system problem. Plus we’ve got all through, as we undergo the autumn, the climate cools down, we’re getting much less vivid gentle and daylight, extra indoors, extra all these items that may kind of construct as much as form of take a success on our immune system.
And so one factor I take into consideration lots this time of yr is we’re transferring into that’s what are a number of the issues we will proactively do to maintain our our bodies, our immune techniques and our bodily well being optimum, even whereas we’re placing much more inputs into it? So do you have got any methods for that, for maintaining our immune system robust, for maintaining from getting sick as a lot as attainable as we return into the college, the college form of routine?
Tina: Nicely, I believe you hit the nail on the top with not being exterior as a lot and never seeing the brightness and the sunshine. I believe we’ve got to be extra prescriptive about being exterior within the solar and getting a good quantity of sunshine in the course of the day, even within the winter months and the autumn months, such as you talked about. I believe we’re, and these children are simply sitting down all day. In the summertime, they’re working round, enjoying, transferring their our bodies far more than they’re in the course of the faculty yr. And I believe simply attempting to get them to be transferring extra. And I believe as dad and mom, we simply, I imply, the errors I made, I believe was with my oldest, particularly, I’d be like, oh, we obtained to get good grades and we have to give attention to this.
And, you realize, now, my God, now I see a lot extra clearly and notice that there have been so many, there have been so many different essential issues to be specializing in, like getting the daylight and getting, and never being so burdened, placing a lot stress on our children with grades and, and the way you, you realize, what you probably did on this report and simply focusing extra on well being and wellness. And I believe I did that extra with my youngest. I used to be way more in step with attempting to get him exterior extra and being out in nature. So I believe that will be one space to begin together with your immune system, simply attempting to get some extra exterior sunshine and be extra lively as a result of we simply change into so sedentary once we have been again to high school.
Katie: That’s so true. And also you’re positively certainly one of my inspirations on this as a result of I’ve gotten to journey with you a number of instances and seen your routine. And also you’re so good about getting morning daylight, which I do know I’ve talked about on right here so many instances and the way essential that’s for our circadian well being. And in addition you’re like such an inspiration in going for walks exterior. I do know we’ve had conversations the place we went for a stroll, even in some form of fascinating areas like downtown New Orleans at completely different instances.
However I really feel like that is possibly certainly one of many causes that you’re such a ball of power is that you just make time, intentional time for motion and time exterior, which it’s humorous that we want science to remind us of this, however the research simply maintain form of exhibiting up about why these issues are so essential. And I really feel such as you’re such instance of that.
Tina: Yeah, properly, thanks. I beloved it. And I’d stroll my children to high school. I used to be in a neighborhood that allowed us to try this. And I believe that in the event you can stroll your children to high school and you’ve got the flexibleness to do it, I used to be lucky. I labored from residence. I used to be capable of stroll them to high school, however simply getting them began out, strolling is so essential. I believe, after which simply, after which, you realize, even in highschool, you realize, a whole lot of children are driving going again to highschool and it’s, and I simply assume attempting to get them to simply be lively and transfer extra and simply empowering them with that. I believe that’s the opposite factor as dad and mom.
I’ve discovered is that you would be able to’t simply inform them one thing, you realize, you’ll want to present them the analysis and you need to present, like have them watch a documentary a few matter that you just wish to educate them about simply because that’s how they actually begin to empower themselves and actually then they’re going to make the modifications. They’re not going to make the change. They might make the modifications quickly whenever you inform them, however when, you realize, they’re empowered by the data and understanding of what’s occurring within the analysis, they’re going to begin making higher modifications.
Katie: I agree. And that’s a recurring theme, I believe, when anytime we discuss parenting on this Podcast can be, to your level, the significance of modeling. And I believe it’s so true that that saying that stated in many alternative methods to many alternative folks, the concept what we are saying is essential and so they’ll generally hear, however they’re going to pay much more consideration to what we do, even when they faux they’re not or if they fight to not, that’s what’s going to stay within the long-term.
And so I believe as mothers, particularly, such as you stated, that is what helps us to maintain that focus of us modeling the factor is definitely the factor that’s going to profit them essentially the most. That is in all probability why we see that statistic {that a} mother’s train and health degree truly has a dramatic impression on her children. It’s as a result of I consider that modeling and them seeing it, which by us doing it, it truly offers them permission to prioritize it as properly. And so I really feel like that is certainly one of my core kind of parenting rules is possibly converse much less and mannequin extra.
Tina: Sure, yeah, I like that. I completely agree with you.
Katie: What about any suggestions for, so my oldest are simply now within the teenage years, any suggestions for maintaining good strains of communication and good relationship together with your children as they undergo the teenage years and into maturity? As a result of I do know from interacting with your loved ones, you have got an superior relationship with your whole children and a really shut, each rapid and prolonged household. And I believe that’s so stunning. So any suggestions for nurturing that?
Tina: Yeah, thanks. I imply, it’s what I’m most happy with in my life is my household that we constructed and the connection that I’ve with my children. And you realize, it’s so humorous, so many individuals have requested me this. And I believe one of many issues I bear in mind when my children have been in highschool and you realize, possibly they weren’t partaking within the actions that different folks have been so far as, you realize, possibly the behaviors they weren’t alleged to be doing. My children have been like, oh, I don’t wish to do this.
And, and other people would say like, how did you have got your children not do this at that age? And I’m like, I don’t, I don’t actually know aside from I simply made residence a really secure place. Not, not simply secure. All of us wish to make our residence secure, however extra like comfy that it’s okay that it’s Friday evening and also you’re a sophomore in highschool and also you don’t have plans. Like that’s okay. Simply hang around with us and be at residence with us.
And I by no means, like I’d by no means be like, oh, what are your pals doing? You recognize, why aren’t you going out? And properly, can’t you discover any plans? Or I’d all the time simply make it like, oh, what do you, what are we going to do Friday evening? What would you like for dinner with, you realize, dad and I? And so I’d, it was extra about, you realize, making it regular that they have been residence with us and never like you need to be observe the social norms of like doing issues.
They did loads of social actions in highschool, however you realize, all of them undergo phases the place mates possibly begin to change and teams begin to change. And I simply assume it’s essential that we make it regular that hang around with us. And for us, I imply, that’s simply the best way we love hanging out with one another. And I believe that was actually essential. And never being so strict. I believe the much less strict we’re, and I imply, children want boundaries. I’m an enormous proponent of that. I believe children, particularly in youngsters, positively want boundaries, however simply, you realize, not being so judgmental about possibly they made a mistake and so they made a selection that they shouldn’t have made, however not judging them on a regular basis and making them really feel dangerous about issues. I believe that has actually helped us be very open about issues.
Katie: That’s such an awesome level, particularly in these situations the place they make a mistake as a result of they’re in all probability going to be taught sufficient from that lesson from having made the error and doubtless be harder on themselves than we might be. And so I really feel like if we will allow them to maintain the possession of that, not take it away from them by judging them externally and never having to have them justify it and defend, which I believe then places extra power into the motion itself. I like that strategy.
And I believe additionally you touched on one thing worthwhile, which is it doesn’t matter what age they’re, we will’t, I neglect who stated this, however we will’t make them and we will’t repair them. Like all these issues have to come back from inside them. And so if we will view it as how can we help them in these classes and be the secure place they’ll be taught these classes with out judgment, I believe that actually helps that relationship. And I additionally love, it looks like you do that so properly in your house, of being the place the place not simply your children, however anyone can go and it’s a spot of unconditional love. And that was what I all the time actually needed to goal for. And it appears to be enjoying out with my youngsters is I needed to be the place the place they all the time felt comfy having their mates, the place everyone was all the time welcome. I’ll feed anyone’s child who’s in my home and hopefully they all the time really feel that there’s unconditional love there. I believe that’s like an intangible that we will’t put a worth on, however one which like hopefully actually helps that relationship for our entire lives with our children.
Tina: Yeah, and I imply, you’re a full mannequin of that. I imply, I bear in mind being over and having all these children round and simply everybody having a lot enjoyable and being lively. And it’s actually essential to have your property be that approach for everybody. I additionally assume like to the touch upon grades, I believe that’s one of many largest classes as a dad or mum I discovered. I imply, I used to be so completely different parenting my oldest than my youngest. And I believe we’ve got to simply give attention to studying. I’m positive you discuss this on a regular basis, Katie, I do know you do, nevertheless it’s like, you realize, the grade isn’t, I simply really feel prefer it’s nearly irrelevant.
You recognize, I imply, what I give attention to, particularly my youngest is in school now, I’m like, simply give attention to studying. I simply need you to be taught. The grade, your GPA means nothing to me. It means it ought to imply nothing to you. It’s like, and you realize, usually whenever you’re studying and also you’re actually specializing in studying, no matter it’s, the grades fall into place. However I believe we simply get so caught up, particularly in highschool with, you realize, learning for, attempting to get into schools and the entire social patterns that we’re alleged to observe. I simply would warning everyone to simply have your give attention to studying. Attempt to get your youngster to like to study no matter matter it’s and in no matter method it’s. It doesn’t should be within the classroom. It might be Ted Talks, it might be no matter it’s.
Katie: Completely. That’s a ability that may serve you your entire life and that hopefully all of us as adults are nonetheless doing each day in some type. However you’re proper. I believe I didn’t be taught that lesson till maturity. I very a lot was so fearful about grades in highschool and I believe I hooked up elements of my identification to how properly I did at school. And it was an awesome factor to love un-pattern and like go off later in life. But it surely’s one thing I’ve been conscious of with my children of attempting to by no means assist or not like form of facilitate a mindset the place they really feel like their price is hooked up to their efficiency in any space, whether or not it’s sports activities, whether or not it’s faculty, however to give attention to the core rules of curiosity and studying and connecting the dots and having enjoyable and overcoming challenges as a result of these are the talents which might be going to truly translate into grownup life and no matter they find yourself selecting, which could not be one thing within the educational discipline, however these are the extra like gentle abilities which might be going to serve them in any facet of life.
And I believe that’s an ideal springboard additionally into the mindset dialog, which is one other space the place you’re positively a supply of inspiration for me. And I do know folks have heard me say down right here, the road I obtained from you, which is that every thing will work out completely for me. And you’re such a supply of positivity and also you deliver that power to any group that you’re in. And so I’d love to listen to, I do know we’ve talked about this a bit of bit in our different podcasts, however what have been a few of your large kind of sources of inspiration or studying in mindset and in crafting that mindset?
Tina: Yeah, properly, thanks, Katie. That’s fairly a praise coming from you. So, yeah, mindset is a big a part of my life. My father truly used to wake me up within the morning and inform me I’m getting higher and higher each day in each approach. And it was, it was, and I assumed, you realize, God, that’s so bizarre that my dad does this on a regular basis. And little did I do know what it did for me for my, the remainder of my life. And he simply taught me about how I, you realize, you create your future, you create your life and it’s the phrases that you just use. Try to be very cautious with the phrases that you just use.
That, you realize, I talked to him and I’d say one thing like, oh my God, I’m loopy. I can’t imagine I did that. And he’d say, cancel, cancel. Such as you don’t say that. You recognize, don’t ever name your self loopy. Like don’t say that even when it’s simply in a joking approach. Simply taught me the ability of phrases and the power that you just deliver to any scenario. He used to again within the day, my God, you realize, I imply, it was a very long time in the past. He needed to have books on tape earlier than books on tape have been a factor. So he would have me dictate Wayne Dyer’s guide right into a tape recorder. And I’d examine or learn Wayne Dyer. And naturally I used to be not paying consideration as a result of I used to be like, I don’t care about this, however I believe subconsciously that was all ingrained in me.
And so then Wayne Dyer turned an enormous instructor to me and is the inspiration of our firm. It’s the inspiration of so many issues in my life and the choices I’ve made in I do really feel that, you realize, we actually, we have to do our life’s work. We have to, we might create our future by the, the, the best way we stay our life. I believe forgiveness is a big facet of it. That’s one of many cool issues that Wayne Dyer talks about lots. And I’ve coached different family and friends members on forgiveness that I believe they’ve had life altering outcomes about. I’m not a coach or something like that. I simply, it’s only a private ardour of mine.
And I like, yeah, I simply assume our phrases are actually essential and our power that we deliver to any scenario is absolutely essential. And, and as you realize, my well-known mantra that I all the time say is every thing works out completely for me. And I believe what’s essential about that, folks assume that’s such a daring assertion to say, however every thing works out completely for me simply signifies that it’s understanding completely for me on this scenario. And it’s not the best way I essentially needed it to work out, however I do know that it’s understanding completely for me. And I’ve to belief that I’ve to belief that, you realize, the universe is offering for me or God is offering for me.
Katie: Yeah, I’ve that assertion on my wall truly in my bed room now too. And it’s actually truly helped me undertake a few of that mindset as properly. And to your level, it’s not that every thing works out how I would like it to work out, however a whole lot of us can in all probability look in hindsight at even issues we thought have been very troublesome throughout no matter level we have been going by means of them and that we might haven’t essentially chosen. However then years later, see how that actually shifted the course of our life or offered a lesson that was actually obligatory for one thing in a while and see that it actually did work out completely, simply not how we thought completely was going to look.
And now trying again, I may even take a look at the toughest moments of my life and have like deep overwhelming gratitude for them. Despite the fact that I wouldn’t have chosen them, I can see now I wouldn’t have gotten to go on a few of these journeys I’ve been on had I not had these experiences. And in order that’s one thing I maintain prime of thoughts with my children too, is to hopefully assist them have the body of reference to be current in no matter view it as taking place completely, even when it’s not nice or fulfilling on a regular basis, and to search for the lesson or to search for the sweetness in it, even when it’s one thing that possibly is troublesome or laborious.
I additionally love that you just introduced up forgiveness. I learn the quote years in the past that forgiveness is setting the prisoner free and realizing that the prisoner was your self. And that’s actually all the time stayed with me as a result of I believe typically we predict, oh, I can forgive them in the event that they do that, or if solely they’d apologize, if solely they’d make it proper. And I believe these are two separate issues. Forgiveness is an inside course of that we get to have full freedom over once we select. Making amends is a complete separate factor and that does contain the opposite particular person. However I believe if we will separate the forgiveness piece and notice that we all the time have the flexibility to forgive, it doesn’t matter what the opposite particular person does or doesn’t do, there’s a lot freedom in that. And so it sounds such as you’ve helped folks attain that time lots, which is gorgeous.
Tina: Yeah, it’s superb. What occurs is that it opens up their lives. You recognize, I’ve one specific pal who had a problem along with his father and impulsively he began forgiving his father and all of those different issues. His profession began taking off. Like his relationships have been even higher than they have been earlier than. So I imply, it’s superb what occurs whenever you forgive and it’s so laborious. And it’s not like I’m saying, oh, forgive sooner or later, you forgive. It’s a course of. However in the event you simply see that it opens up a lot in your individual life and as dangerous as somebody has handled you, as horrible as one thing that somebody has completed to you, in the event you might get to some extent of forgiveness, you’ll actually begin seeing nice issues occur in your life.
Katie: Yeah, and other people have in all probability heard me discuss this earlier than as properly, however for years I used to be doing all of the bodily well being stuff that I knew the way to do and dealing with all of the medical doctors and had spreadsheets for every thing, attempting to repair all my bodily well being issues. And it wasn’t till I additionally addressed that inside emotional aspect and altered my mindset that every one the bodily stuff began working. And it actually highlighted for me how not solely are the thoughts and physique related and you may’t view both one in isolation, but in addition how highly effective the inside work is for even shifting our bodily well being.
And I believe we possibly can all consider examples of somebody who simply continues to have well being issues possibly, however they’ve a mindset that’s kind of like manifesting of their bodily well being or folks such as you who’ve this every thing works out completely for me mindset and who like appear to be thriving and limitless power. And I believe that not all the time is {that a} trigger and impact relationship, definitely by any means, however that these are actually worthwhile components to recollect it’s each/and, not both or with regards to these items.
Tina: Nicely, completely. And I, you realize, I’m clearly interviewed on fairly a number of podcasts about intestine well being, and I’m all the time speaking about the truth that we have to meditate, we have to do deep respiration or acupuncture, therapeutic massage, no matter it’s that calms you down. We have to be doing these items to be caring for our intestine well being. After which the reverse is true. You recognize, you’ll want to be caring for your intestine well being to ship alerts again to the mind. And, you realize, it’s like we’ve got to keep in mind that what’s occurring mentally is affecting us bodily and vice versa. What’s occurring bodily will probably be affecting us mentally. However they each precisely, they’re each working collectively.
Katie: And also you additionally talked in regards to the phrases that we are saying being so essential. And I like this level as properly. I’ve tried to concentrate to lots, particularly any phrases that come after the phrases I’m, as a result of I really feel like that’s actually highly effective for what we’re telling our brains and our our bodies. However I’ve discovered slowly and this was a course of as properly. However the inside speak particularly that I had in direction of myself had a direct impression on my mindset and on my bodily well being as properly. And also you talked about one saying that your dad would use with you. I’m curious when you’ve got another suggestions for kind of nurturing a optimistic mindset towards oneself, as a result of it looks like for many individuals that’s truly essentially the most troublesome to beat. Like we might be sort and the way we converse to our children and our companions and our mates, however generally studying to talk kindly to ourselves might be the most important impediment.
Tina: Isn’t that the reality? I imply, and I work at this each day and I believe it’s nonetheless laborious for me, you realize, I believe one of many issues that has helped me is simply doing day by day morning affirmations. So I’ve my affirmations and it simply units the time out to begin out on observe and saying phrases which might be affirming the best way that you just wish to stay your day and your life.
So I believe optimistic affirmations and the opposite factor is like I’ll discover myself beating myself up as a result of I stated one thing like, oh, you realize, God, these pants are tight on me. After which I’m like, why am I consuming like a pig? Or, you realize, I say one thing like, I’m like, oh my God, Tina, you realize higher than to speak like that to your self. And and I’m like, OK, now I can’t beat myself up about it both. So I believe like acknowledge that you just do. All of us do this. We are saying issues that we shouldn’t be saying. However I and that’s what’s helped me is saying, would I say that to my daughter? You recognize, would I say that to my mother? Would I say that to a pal? And no, I imply, if I’m not going to say it to them, like, by how can I say it to myself? And we’ve got to remind ourselves of that.
However I believe saying the morning affirmations is so highly effective to begin your time out. Simply consider one thing like I’m excellent well being or I’m I’m wholesome. I really feel good. I look good. No matter it’s that you just’re engaged on and the way you wish to set your intentions for the day. I’ve a number of. I alter them up. I’ve one which’s like enterprise associated, one which’s private associated, one which’s well being associated. So no matter it’s, I attempt to use these mantras, some that I’ve stated for in all probability 10 years. So I believe it’s simply essential to phrases are highly effective. And I do imagine our unconscious thoughts absorbs these phrases. And so be very prescriptive in regards to the phrases that you just say to your self.
Katie: I like that recommendation. And I like that we obtained to get into the mindset aspect first, as a result of I actually do imagine, like we’ve talked about, that this can be a actually enormous key, even with regards to bodily well being, and that usually it’s neglected or typically it feels insurmountable. And I believe any, even small child steps make an enormous distinction in that space. And so I like that we obtained to the touch on that.
However I do know that you just even have a ton of experience within the bodily well being aspect and particularly in intestine well being. And I believe that is additionally crucial at the moment of yr particularly, not simply because typically when folks return to high school, their meals can change a bit of bit as a result of a whole lot of instances you’re consuming at college now or packing lunches, but in addition as a result of like we talked about, gentle’s altering, your immune system is altering and its inputs at that time, possibly sleep is altering since you’ve obtained children have extra homework and so they’re up later. There’s a lot occurring there.
And it looks like we’ve heard sufficient a lot from all these research about intestine well being being completely linked to all facets of well being, that something we will do this helps our intestine well being truly has optimistic ripple results into all areas of well being, from sleep to emphasize to after all, digestion to pores and skin and on and on and on. So I do know that this is sort of a life’s work and a ardour for you and that you’ve got put in a whole lot of hours into determining one of the best options for intestine well being.
However I’d love so that you can begin broad and stroll us by means of what are a number of the core rules of excellent intestine well being, whether or not it’s issues which might be higher to keep away from, issues which might be nice to eat, whether or not it’s stress components, what are the massive needle movers with regards to intestine well being?
Tina: Nicely, to start with, I’m so glad that you just talked about that the truth that intestine well being has to do with just about each facet of our total well being. And naturally, 80% of our immune system is present in our intestine. So we’re attempting so laborious to love ramp up our children and ourselves, our immune system as we head into fall and winter. And we’ve got to recollect, we’ve obtained to give attention to our intestine well being as a result of it’s actually dictating each facet, just about each facet of our total well being and primarily our immune system. So you’re completely proper to say that.
So a number of the issues I believe to keep away from, you realize, sadly, the world we stay in is so detrimental to our intestine micro organism. You recognize, our intestine is comprised of all these helpful microorganisms, primarily micro organism. And we all know that we live on this world that’s so offensive to our intestine well being. So one of many largest issues is antibiotics. So we all know now to keep away from antibiotics and as a lot as attainable, however they’re present in animal merchandise, they’re present in our meals provide. So we’ve got to attempt to be very conscious of the meals that we’re consuming that wouldn’t have antibiotics in them.
Additionally with Glyphosate, which is the lively ingredient in Roundup, and it’s sprayed throughout our produce. And that’s so detrimental to our intestine well being. Loads of family and private care merchandise are very detrimental. Loads of shampoos, toothpaste, which is why I’d clearly suggest everyone take, you realize, use Wellnesse as a result of I imply, to start with, it’s so good for our hair anyway. I like the best way it makes my hair really feel. My dad now loves it. It’s so humorous. So I positively assume we’ve got to be conscious of our private care merchandise, too, as a result of they’re simply loaded with all of those toxins.
So there’s chemical substances and toxins throughout our, you realize, the world that we’re residing in. And so we actually have to be specializing in caring for our intestine well being. Sadly, the soil that we’re consuming off of doesn’t have a whole lot of the microbes that we actually have been used to getting our ancestors used to get. So we, you realize, it’s good to eat fermented meals. Undoubtedly would suggest fermented meals, simply not as a substitute for a high quality probiotic. That’s the place I believe the massive mistake is made, is folks assume fermented meals is a substitute for a probiotic. It has tons of vitamins. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being, nevertheless it’s not a substitute for a probiotic. It doesn’t as a result of the massive… you realize, facet of probiotics, after all, is survivability. And the spore-based probiotic strains that we work with truly, we all know survive and get to the intestines alive.
So I’d actually give attention to avoiding, like antibiotics, avoiding Glyphosate, which is the lively ingredient in Roundup, and give attention to consuming natural meals, definitely consuming fermented meals, after which taking a high-quality probiotic could be, you realize, actually supportive of your intestine well being, and doing issues like meditation, strolling in nature, being exterior, getting within the daylight. All these issues are actually essential for our intestine well being.
Katie: And we did a complete episode about this, so I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. Folks can go actually deep. But in addition I really feel like there’s a whole lot of myths surrounding probiotics. So I like that you just touched on that fermented meals and probiotics, each essential however separate, they don’t substitute one another. We want the fiber and the enzymes and every thing that comes with fermented meals. And in addition there’s issues particular to probiotics that aren’t essentially simply going to be in fermented meals. However I really feel like there’s many extra myths past that. And lots of of them are nonetheless quite common, like issues round refrigerated probiotics or what strains are finest and in the event that they survive within the intestine or not.
And so I’d love so that you can break down a few of these myths as properly and speak in regards to the distinction between spore primarily based probiotics and different probiotics. As a result of this was new data to me once I first met you.
Tina: Yeah, so the most important fantasy is the refrigeration fantasy. You recognize, so many, even medical doctors will say, oh, with the intention to be probiotic, it must be refrigerated. And the explanation why they stated that was as a result of, you realize, you want a stay microorganism with the intention to even be outlined as a probiotic. So a probiotics definition is a stay microorganism that confers a profit onto the host, which is the physique. So that they’re considering, oh, properly, with the intention to be alive, it must be within the fridge. However when you consider it, if a probiotic pressure must be alive, to, they’ll’t even stand up to the room temperature of the shop shelf. It must be within the fridge to remain alive. What on this planet will occur when it goes into your physique, which is 98.6, a lot hotter than the room temperature of the shop shelf? And the reply is that they’re gonna die.
And let’s say the temperature doesn’t even kill them. By the point they get to the abdomen, which could be very acidic and meant to be the gastric barrier, nearly all of strains in the marketplace are simply killed off by that temperature, the physique temperature, in addition to the acid within the abdomen. So this concept of a probiotic needing to be refrigerated with the intention to be probiotic might be one of many largest myths on the market. And it nonetheless must be debunked. The factor with the strains that we work with, they’re truly dormant. They’re not stay, like within the bottle, they’re not alive. They’re truly dormant. After which after they get to the intestines, so that they make that journey out of your throat by means of the gastric system. And after they get into the intestines, that’s after they take their spore shell off. And that’s after they go into their stay vegetative cell, stay vegetative cell state. And that’s after they begin doing the magic within the microbiome.
So we’ve got to recollect, a probiotic doesn’t have to be alive within the fridge. A probiotic must be alive in your intestines. And that’s one of many largest myths. So we actually wanna guarantee that the probiotic is alive within the intestines.
After which I believe one of many different large myths out there’s that you just want a excessive rely, a excessive CFU rely. So CFU is Colony Forming Items. You’ll see that on the entrance of the bottle. It’ll say 50 billion CFUs, 250 billion CFUs. Now you see one thing with 500 billion CFUs. And there’s truly no research. There are not any research behind exhibiting extra is healthier. Actually, there’s research exhibiting now that like generally when you have got numerous completely different strains and many completely different excessive variety of CFU truly might trigger some points and we might go into that later.
However the essential factor to know is of these three billion or nevertheless many billion CFUs you have got at a product, what sort of change are they making within the intestine? And one of many first research we did was one thing known as a intestine mannequin examine. And we solely have three billion CFUs in our product. And we noticed a 30% favorable shift within the intestine after solely two and a half weeks. And that is profound to see that sort of a change in such a brief period of time with simply three billion CFUs. And so, don’t get caught up within the 50 billion, 500 billion. That’s actually all advertising and marketing. And there’s actually no analysis behind that.
Katie: That’s so good to know. And the factor I beloved about this once I discovered that was that it meant that now I might get probiotics to my children way more simply as a result of the refrigerated ones wanted to be taken in these very particular circumstances and also you needed the children to swallow them and a whole lot of my youthful ones on the time couldn’t swallow drugs.
However once I discovered in regards to the spore-based ones and the way they may survive by means of the intestine and survive at warmth, I noticed I might combine these into meals, into smoothies, and it was a lot, a lot simpler to get them for my children than in the event that they needed to swallow a tablet solely. And so I like that.
And I believe you guys have made this even simpler now as a result of the gummies simply obtained to my home lately and my little ones are virtually addicted to those. However I’d guess it’s the same idea as a result of they’re steady and might survive all the best way to the small gut. It’s tremendous to chew them. It’s tremendous for them to be in a gummy and so they nonetheless get digested and assimilated the identical approach.
Tina: Yep, precisely. Precisely. It’s actually, that’s what’s so nice about these spores is that they’re so sturdy that we truly examined them. You had talked about we might open them and blend them with meals. You may truly bake with them. We examined them as much as 455 levels and so they stay fully steady. So you could possibly bake them and no matter in the event you’re making some sort of muffin or brownie or one thing you could possibly do or no matter. As I used to place in my son’s piping sizzling oatmeal. And that’s, it’s actually, good for teenagers to have the ability to have that possibility.
I imply, a whole lot of adults don’t even wish to swallow drugs. After which after all the gummy is simply, oh my God, that’s been actually thrilling as a result of they style so good. I imply, they style actually good. In order that’s been actually essential. And that’s essential to us simply to have the compliance so far as folks taking it. And I believe after they style good, folks will take it extra typically. And in order that was extra essential to us. We waited an extended, very long time to supply a gummy as a result of we have been like, oh, you realize, there’s some elements that aren’t as nice as we’d wish to be. We wish to be tremendous, tremendous clear, however we did the least quantity of something and we have been simply capable of, you realize, we would like compliance. It’s actually essential for us to have compliance with taking the product. And that appears to be what the gummy is doing.
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Katie: And one other cool factor with regards to intestine well being that truly I believe ties in and circles again to, again to high school as properly, is that research regularly are exhibiting that a lot of our neurotransmitters are made in our intestine, truly, and the intestine’s known as the second mind, and there’s so many connections there.
And I do know for lots of mothers particularly, this can be a time of yr the place there’s extra stress, extra overwhelm, definitely extra working children round, extra scheduling. And it seems that we will truly actually use supporting our intestine to our benefit with regards to stress and psychological well being as properly. And also you guys have completed some fairly fascinating work round particular strains which might be tied in right here. So I’d love so that you can clarify that as a result of I’ve been utilizing JustCalm lots currently, and it looks like it actually does make a noticeable distinction on stress, however I’d love so that you can clarify why.
Tina: Yeah, so simply the intestine alone, simply taking the spore-based probiotic alone, our signature product goes to assist with that as a result of we all know 90% of our serotonin is produced in our intestine. Dopamine is produced in our intestine. GABA, which is the calming hormone, is produced in our intestine. So it’s so critically essential to be specializing in our intestine well being once we’re speaking about psychological well being and our temper. We see this on a regular basis. So many individuals will possibly come to our product as a result of they’ve gasoline or bloating or diarrhea, constipation, no matter it could be, after which they’ll say to us, oh my gosh, you realize what, like I’m beginning to, like, I’m in a greater temper. I’ve extra power. I imply, would this have something to do with the probiotic? And I’m like, sure. You recognize, within the pharmaceutical business, it’s like, Unwanted effects embody suicidal ideas, dying, all these horrible issues. And it’s like right here unintended effects embody higher temper, extra power and higher weight administration we’ve even seen.
So we all know that the probiotic alone helps with simply the leakiness of the intestine. You may return, such as you stated, to a different episode and we might discuss leaky intestine. And we all know that when you have got a leaky intestine, that’s the irritation will begin going to lots of your completely different organs, certainly one of which is your mind. And that’s a part of what causes the problem. However now we’ve been specializing in the analysis that you just talked about with this pressure known as Bifidobacterium Longum 1714. And this pressure known as a psychobiotic. And a psychobiotic is a probiotic pressure that’s serving to help that gut-brain entry. So we all know we’ve got this intestine mind entry. It’s the communication superhighway, I wish to name it, as a result of the intestine is sending alerts to the mind and the mind is sending alerts to the intestine. And we’ve recognized this for a very long time.
We all know once we’re enthusiastic about one thing, we get butterflies in our abdomen. We all know once we’re nervous, we begin to go to the lavatory. These are all connections, these are all alerts going backwards and forwards from the intestine to the mind, the mind to the intestine.
And so we all know that this Bifidobacterium Longum 1714 Pressure that’s present in our JustCalm product truly has been ready, it’s been proven in research to have folks have a greater notion of stress. So simply that potential to deal with stress higher truly helps deliver us extra into that theta waves like mindset, so we’re extra in that circulate state. We all know that it’s truly serving to with cognitive perform and skill to focus higher. So it was some actually compelling research on the 1714 pressure.
Katie: That’s so fascinating. And naturally, the opposite element that we all know that’s very well studied right here is again to the immune system element and that when our intestine well being is compromised, our immune well being is by nature compromised as properly. And it looks like there’s a really robust hyperlink with irritation right here. And it looks like an increasing number of research simply maintain pointing towards the widespread hyperlink between most persistent illnesses truly being rooted in irritation in lots of circumstances. And so anytime we will profit our intestine well being and provides it the chance to scale back irritation within the physique and to course of that extra successfully, it looks like it is also gonna have a very optimistic impression for the intestine.
However are there any particular methods, particularly as we transfer into form of chilly and flu season that additionally will help help immune well being particularly from a gut-focused perspective?
Tina: Yeah, so all the conventional issues that I talked about, after which we’ve got a IgG product, which is an immunoglobulin G that has been actually, actually supportive. I imply, it’s actually supportive of the liner of your intestine, actually supportive of your immune system. We all know that IgG is principally an antibody that helps assault the, any viruses, toxins, issues like that, that are available in, that our physique naturally makes immunoglobulin G. And we all know that this IgG product that we’ve got truly offers us 25% extra of the IgG in our intestine, which is so essential as a result of 90% of our immune system is present in our intestine. In order that’s one other technique that we like to make use of, particularly, you realize, as you get into the autumn and winter months. I personally take all of it yr lengthy as a result of I believe it’s such a fricking phenomenal product. However I additionally, you realize, I perceive that possibly folks may wish to simply take it, you realize, within the fall and winter season, however I’d extremely suggest that.
After which simply is from an immune perspective viewpoint is simply what we simply maintain speaking about, like calming ourselves down as a result of it actually does make a distinction on how our intestine is functioning. We’ve obtained to calm ourselves down and we live on this world that’s so, so, everybody’s wired. It’s like nearly like, you realize, you get an award for being extra wired and being busier. And I don’t need, we discuss modeling for our children. We will’t mannequin that to our children. We now have obtained to, you realize, present them that we’ve got a lot success and happiness once we are simply not wired on a regular basis and we don’t should do every thing and be every thing to everybody. So, and I do know it’s laborious as a mother and a younger mother. And I simply, I want somebody had informed me that once I children have been little, simply to, you realize, reduce, give your self grace, go gradual, nothing, every thing doesn’t should be excellent and simply, you realize, focus in your, your psychological well being too.
Katie: Yeah, completely. That’s so essential. And that is purely anecdotal, so not medical recommendation. However with certainly one of my daughters, I seen that the mixture of IgG and the probiotic appears to essentially assist. Truly, she had some recurring eczema when she was youthful, and that appeared to assist her physique actually clear that. And he or she doesn’t have it in any respect anymore. So I don’t know if there’s something particular to that within the research, however in her case, that appeared to be kind of just like the magic factor that helped her eczema for anyone on the market who may need eczema with their children.
Tina: Yeah, properly, it’s all in regards to the leakiness of the intestine. With the probiotic alone, we all know we’ve got a double-blind human medical trial on leaky intestine that’s been actually supportive of the intestine well being, that we all know that’s supporting the intestine, the barrier and the intestinal barrier. And now we all know that the IgG product is additional help of that barrier. And simply getting rid, I imply, simply maintaining these toxins from seeping into our bloodstream is absolutely essential when persons are coping with autoimmune points, after they’re coping with allergic reactions. We have to seal up that intestinal barrier. I can’t overstate that sufficient. And people two merchandise are simply such, such enormous instruments in your toolbox.
Katie: And I do know as somebody who’s a busy enterprise proprietor and a mother and every thing else that you’ve got in your plate, however you managed to remain, like I stated, so energetic and in good well being. So on a private degree, I’d love any suggestions from you which might be form of your individual private 80-20, whether or not it’s day by day habits, day by day dietary supplements, something that you just do as a part of a routine that you just really feel like contributes to that.
Tina: Yeah, so I get up each morning and I do my affirmations. I meditate after which I am going for my morning stroll that I like a lot. Even within the winter, I’m from Chicago and I nonetheless will go within the winter and I’ll, you realize, stroll and simply get exterior in nature. And I even love the snow within the winter. So I’m an enormous complement taker. Clearly I take our Simply Thrive Probiotic, our IgG, K2, our Prebiotic. I take all of our merchandise just about as a result of we don’t launch something that I don’t fully agree with or that’s not researched and primarily based in science. That’s been crucial to us.
I additionally take Brocelite, a Cell Chlorophane Complement, and I take Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Fish Oil. What else do I take? I take lots. I’m attempting to consider what else I’d, I simply, I take so many, however I’m simply, I’m enormous. I simply imagine that our soil is so depleted. It doesn’t have the vitamins that we wish to be taking.
After which after all I’ve been specializing in intestine well being as a result of every thing else that you just’re attempting to soak up goes to be absorbed that significantly better when your intestine is wholesome. And I believe that’s what we’ve got to recollect. We now have a lot irritation occurring in our intestine. And if it’s infected, it’s not absorbing vitamins. So it’s actually essential that I believe folks begin with their intestine well being after which in any other case all these different dietary supplements and all these different wholesome meals that we’re consuming will not be actually working.
I additionally am an enormous fan of intermittent fasting. I believe that folks ought to do it in the event that they assume it really works for them. However for me, it really works nice. I did it, I used to be motivated. I do know so many individuals have been motivated by it to shed extra pounds. I used to be motivated by it due to the analysis, the way it helped the analysis in intestine well being. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being. We all know that sure micro organism truly proliferate in a starved state. So I’ll do intermittent fasting and I often simply do like a 14 to 16 hour quick, however no matter works for you. However we do know that there’s analysis behind that.
Katie: I agree. And I do know it’s gotten, there’s considerably like controversy, particularly round girls and fasting, however I all the time form of put intermittent fasting or time-restricted consuming in a separate class as a result of that is traditionally one thing we’ve all the time completed in some type and we’re definitely not consuming whereas we’re sleeping. So all of us are literally performing some type of intermittent fasting anyway. It’s simply experimenting with the timeline of that. And to your level, I believe it is vitally particular person and it’s all the time price being your individual major healthcare supplier and doing the experimentation to determine what’s going to give you the results you want.
For me, after a whole lot of experimentation, I noticed I really feel nice on a time-restricted schedule, particularly if I shift it earlier within the day. That basically tends to assist with circadian biology. So I attempt to get morning daylight as quickly as attainable after waking up. After which I attempt to eat in a extra ahead shifted window within the day. So I’ll eat a very nutrient dense breakfast with protein comparatively quickly after waking up. After which I’ll attempt to cease consuming for positive by sundown, however typically by like 5 PM. And I’ve seen that my sleep improves once I shift that consuming window earlier.
And I solely say that as a result of I believe a whole lot of the preliminary intermittent fasting recommendation was from guys and their biology works a bit of completely different. And a whole lot of them would skip breakfast and eat it like one or two within the afternoon after which eat until eight o’clock at evening, which definitely works for some folks. However as a girl, I’ve seen for me that earlier window tends to work higher. So if somebody’s experimenting and never seeing good outcomes, that will be one suggestion I’d have is shift the window earlier and see if that makes a distinction for you.
Tina: Yeah, I like that. I don’t do it that approach. So I may need to offer {that a} strive. However I like to really feel, you’re completely proper although in regards to the, you realize, even in the event you simply cease consuming earlier and also you go to mattress and you then simply, precisely 12 hours isn’t that troublesome to do and also you’re, you realize, simply begin consuming a bit of bit earlier.
Katie: Completely. And that’s like, once more, again to that kind of optimistic suggestions loop of stress and sleep and intestine well being and all of those components. The nice factor is that if they’re not working for you, they’ll form of change into a destructive suggestions loop. However in the event you even make optimistic child steps in any of these, it turns right into a optimistic suggestions loop and so they construct on one another. So then power will get higher. It’s simpler to decide to doing the issues you realize you wish to do. You can also make these habits extra constant and you then proceed to construct that power and that motivation. So I like that we’ve gotten to cowl so lots of the facets of that optimistic suggestions loop immediately.
And some questions I additionally like to ask towards the tip of interviews. I do know I’ve requested you these earlier than, however I’m curious when you’ve got any, whether or not it’s new guide suggestions or latest books which have had a optimistic impression on you and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Tina: Yeah, it’s humorous as a result of I all the time return to the 4 Agreements as a result of I do know it’s been used so typically, however I learn it so typically and I simply gave it to a younger household pal who’s a younger man who’s going off to varsity and he stated, Mrs. Anderson, oh my God, I simply learn this guide and it actually made such a distinction and you realize, I’m actually having fun with it. And I simply, I’ve to say it once more, as a result of I do assume it’s price rereading if folks haven’t learn it as a result of it actually has made an enormous distinction in my life.
And I talked about Wayne Dyer and certainly one of his books, he’s obtained so many nice books, however one of many ones that I can see clearly now could be actually, actually good. And that’s in all probability the place I discovered essentially the most about forgiveness. And I simply assume it’s actually nice for anybody that’s possibly combating forgiveness. His, and simply his life story, it’s principally like a life story and the way you could possibly see a lot clearer, you realize, years later and the way it makes such an impression in your life to love, forgive and watch out with the phrases that you just select. And yeah, these are some books that actually have been impactful to me and I reread them on a regular basis.
Katie: I’ll embody hyperlinks to these within the present notes for you guys listening on the go. All of that’s all the time at wellnessmama.fm together with hyperlinks to the entire merchandise you guys carry. And I imagine there’s additionally a particular low cost from you guys that will probably be within the present notes as properly. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners immediately that might be associated to motherhood or intestine well being or mindset or any of the issues we’ve talked about or totally unrelated life recommendation.
Tina: Yeah, you realize what I’d say, simply because we have been speaking about children, I believe, simply spend time together with your children. I believe that’s in all probability one of many largest issues that has impacted my relationship and my husband’s relationship with our children is simply the truth that we’re spending a whole lot of time, we’ve, we spent a whole lot of time with them and it’s these little, these moments of windshield time, which we, a pal of ours coined so eloquently, you realize, simply you’re considering like, oh, in the event you’re driving them right here and there, you’re not likely spending, it’s not high quality time. Consider me, that’s generally essentially the most high quality time you get is driving them backwards and forwards to actions. They begin to speak extra. So simply get pleasure from these instances with them and be thankful for them as a result of they go by so quick. As you realize, how unhappy I’ve been that my children have gotten older.
Katie: It does go by so quick. I believe my oldest one, turning 16, was an enormous, like a form of lightning bolt second for me of realizing simply how little time I’d have left with him nonetheless at residence. And so, yeah, I like that recommendation. I believe that’s an ideal place to wrap up for immediately. And Tina, it’s all the time such a pleasure to speak to you. I’m so glad that we obtained to catch up and that we obtained to document it immediately. Thanks a lot on your time.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. All the time an exquisite pleasure to speak to you.
Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most precious assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us immediately. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the Wellness Mama Podcast.
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